[THIN] Re: How NT4 sam is modified by terminal services ?

  • From: Elio.DESANTIS@xxxxxxxxxxx
  • To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 17:26:29 +0200


For the first: I'm going to find a document from MS clarifying it (extra
fields allways present but not used -- OR -- new fields, like a schema
expansion in w2k domains)

For the second: OK, I didn't know I could find a "usrmgr" on w2k TS server
that allows to browse NT4 SAM domain.

Thanks !



                                                                                
                                                       
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True. It really doesn't "modify" the same. Like Neil said it using
unused "space". Kinda like building a database and leaving unused fields
in there for later use.=20

UsrMgr on win2k will open up and see the additional attributes in the NT
4 user accounts.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Braebaum, Neil [mailto:neil.braebaum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 9:37 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: How NT4 sam is modified by terminal services ?


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elio.DESANTIS@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Elio.DESANTIS@xxxxxxxxxxx]=20
> Sent: 22 October 2002 15:31
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: How NT4 sam is modified by terminal services ?
>=20
> I know you are right Ron, no problems, but:
>=20
> First
> In an NT 4 domain : Is it true to say that after the first=20
> installation of terminal services on any server (w2k or NT),=20
> the SAM is modified ?

That's not my perception.

The area of the SAM concerned, is (as I understand it) an already
included
chunk, but unused and undefined.

Use of UMFD that include the terminal server extensions (or in a past
life,
the Citrix stuff) merely wrote stuff into this area, that everything
else
would ignore - as it's there for (then) future expansion.

> Second
> How can I verify these extra settings if the only server=20
> running terminal services is a windows 2000 on the NT4 domain=20
> ? Can I use the old usrmgr shipped with NT4TSE ? Or is it=20
> possible to use an w2k MMC snap-in to browse NT4 users ?

On NT4 machines, do you mean? (if so, depending on what level they're
at,
you may need to install the mmc).

Your W2K server will have UMFD on it, anyways.

Neil


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