RIGHT....formal documentation.... :) Just a suggested, as CTX hotfixes, I understand, may fix one thing, break something else. Anyone know of the hotfix rollup that was noted at iForum? The tough thing to know, is what are the latest hotfixes? This on contains these 7, but not these 4, etc., etc. _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Durbin Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 9:59 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Hotfixes... I'd be interested in that. Can you ask them if they've documented that somewhere as a formal recommdendation? Thanks. _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Schneider, Chad M Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 7:52 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Hotfixes... I will have to talk with a Couple Citrix SE's, who just at iForum, restated not to install a patch, unless a specific item you are experiencing, is fixed with that patch. Thanks for the input. _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Durbin Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 9:43 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Hotfixes... I work for the 2003 Citrix North American partner of the year and all the Senior Consultants in the Citrix practice had this discussion a few weeks ago. We all agreed that our position is to fully patch MetaFrame with the latest Citrix service pack and hotfixes. We don't take this stance with Microsoft operating systems, however. _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Schneider, Chad M Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 6:52 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Hotfixes... I also know, per Citrix, that unless you see an issue, that is noted in a patch, to not apply the patch. Citrix SE's have made it clear to not apply hotfixes, just because they are available. _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Durbin Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:48 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Hotfixes... I'm a firm believer in proactive patching. Patches are issued to correct flaws in the code, so I always prefer to have code that is as bug free as possible, rather than wait to encounter the problem and find the fix. If you had had all the Citrix patches applied to your server(s), you wouldn't have seen the issue or had to deal with the problem at all. _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Schneider, Chad M Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 6:09 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Hotfixes... Due to an apparent zone communication issue, I finally called Citrix Tech support. That was Thurs. night. I then called them back on Mon. morning. They suggested, first thing, hotfixes 126, 119 and 082. How does the group feel about these fixes? Any thoughts at all are appreciated.