Thanks for the input! I'm not using DNS for browsing as I am specifying the servers on the client. I may look at setting up the DNS ica entry in the future. Matthew Shrewsbury, MCSE+Internet MCSE 2000 CCA Network Administrator -----Original Message----- From: Rick Mack [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rick Mack Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 6:42 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [THIN] Re: Help! slow logon process from remote site Hi, A direct connection to a server bypasses the server enumeration/load balancing and published app resolution. A normal scenario for a published app is: Unless a server browser list is defined, try a DNS lookup on "ica" to find a Citix server. If the DNS entry resolves, conatact the server, which will either provide you with the PN info or redirect you to the data collector which will do the deed. THEN your client will connect to the nominated published app server. If a number of servers have been defined under the ica entry, then make sure DNS round-robin support hasn't been disabled, and make sure that ALL the servers in the DNS list are online, otherwise the ICA client will have to time out before it tries the next server in the list and finally gets it's connection info. If you want fast connections, have a dedicated data collector or less loaded prmary data collector, and either set the browser list to that servers IP address or just have a single DNS "ica" entry to that server. Setting the farm property to have only the data collector handle PN request can also help. regards, Rick Ulrich Mack Volante Systems _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Matthew Shrewsbury Sent: Wed 3/11/2004 10:01 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Help! slow logon process from remote site I'll try watching but they have to be connected as I see policy and logon scripts run without issue. It could be the published app is doing something except that the users on the local LAN have no issue. There is no other port that comes into play other then 1494 and 8080 correct (I'm using full Citrix Program Neighborhood 7.1 and connecting to application by setting server names and TCP)? Thanks for your suggestions!! Matthew Shrewsbury, MCSE+Internet MCSE 2000 CCA Network Administrator . -----Original Message----- From: Ron Oglesby [mailto:Roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 6:21 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Help! slow logon process from remote site Well the XML port wouldn't be the issue. I mean that is used for app enumeration. Have you watched their connection as they come in. Are they connected when it hangs? If so its not XML since that is needed to enumerate the app and not used once connected. Ron Oglesby Director of Technical Architecture RapidApp, Chicago Office: 312 372 7188 Mobile: 815 325 7618 email: roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Matthew Shrewsbury Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 4:42 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Help! slow logon process from remote site I thought that at first but when I create a custom connection directly to the server name it logs in at normal speed. Any other ideas? Matthew Shrewsbury, MCSE+Internet MCSE 2000 CCA Network Administrator -----Original Message----- From: Ron Oglesby [mailto:Roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 5:29 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Help! slow logon process from remote site No, more than likely it is Running login scripts and mapping drives to remote servers, home dirs are located at remote sites, or Profiles or TS profiles are at remote sites. Ron Oglesby Director of Technical Architecture RapidApp, Chicago Office: 312 372 7188 Mobile: 815 325 7618 email: roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Matthew Shrewsbury Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 4:09 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Help! slow logon process from remote site I am starting to move users off our old Citrix server onto our new Citrix farm. Everything has gone as planned for our uses using the LAN. Our remote site is having very slow logons. When I say logon I mean the user starts to logon I see the logon script run as normal and just as you would expect the published application to appear the screen goes blank and you wait and wait (around 30 to 60 seconds) then the application appears. Once the connection is established everything works fine. 1) This problem does not occur for LAN users. 2) This problem only occurs for published applications. I think the problem might have something to do with the XML service running on 8080? What ports need to be open through our (firewall 1494 is working fine)? Any ideas I really need to get this working quickly? Thanks for any help!! Matthew Shrewsbury, MCSE+Internet MCSE 2000 CCA Network Administrator Coscan Homes LLC 5555 Anglers Avenue, Suite 1A Ft. Lauderdale, Florida 33312 Direct 954.620.1052 DISCLAIMER: This message contains information which may be confidential and/or privileged, and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). Any use, disclosure or copying of this message or any part thereof by any person other than such addressee(s) is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and delete the message. Thank you for your cooperation. ######################################################################## ############# This e-mail, including all attachments, may be confidential or privileged. 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