What, management won't give users a mirror to read their document? You should tell them to save a tree and not print. Joe _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Adam Granatella Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 3:53 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: HRP2 is out Not hatred, frustration. Citrix touts their printing in PS4.0 is so vastly improved. UPD, works every time. Wrong. Printing is mirrored and backwards. Known issue, here's a hotfix, on the client side, released in a buggy client that creates new issues. CPSVC.exe leaks 3Mb of memory for every user that logs on and prints. Private hotfix, install it and immediately starts crashing the spooler. 020 hotfix fixes it. 3 days later, so does 033. 2 months later, so does 061. A week later, so does 069. Oh, but the installation of any of these hotfixes also randomly puts servers into a state where they stop auto-creating printers. The fix? Restart CPSVC. Oh yeah, but also a new bug. 5 minutes after you restart CPSVC, auto created printers vanish. The fix? 2-4 more weeks. Or just log off your users. I mean, really. This is supposed to be acceptable? I know, pay some other company a whole slew of money to fix what Citrix has been advertising as "vastly improved printing" for the last few years. Don't get me wrong, I like Citrix and I'm still excited about the things it brings to the table, but chasing around this printing problem for the last 5 months has been ridiculous. And yes, I've checked my drivers, etc. etc. etc. I realize there are plenty of you who have had no issues at all, so if you don't believe me, send me a fax number and I'll fax over a mirrored and backwards printed out copy of the admin guide for you. :) Adam _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Jeff Pitsch Sent: Tue 8/15/2006 4:28 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: HRP2 is out Wow such hatred. I'm curious, what piece of software do you have that doesn't have bugs? Seriously? Name one. On 8/15/06, Adam Granatella <granatella.adam@xxxxxxxx> wrote: From <http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX110471> http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX110471: 21. The Citrix Print Manager service may become unresponsive. When this happens, printers fail to autocreate. (The solution to this problem is, of course, to restart the Citrix Print Manager service) Then this gem... From <http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX110830> http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX110830: Symptoms Autocreated client printers are deleted five minutes after the Citrix Print Manager Service is restarted. Thanks a lot Citrix, you jackasses!!! _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of M Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 11:17 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: HRP2 is out Well spotted. Here are some articles to go with it http://support.citrix.com/kb/entry.jspa?entryID=10757 http://support.citrix.com/kb/entry.jspa?entryID=10761 http://support.citrix.com/kb/entry.jspa?entryID=10765 M ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff <mailto:jepitsch@xxxxxxxxx> Pitsch To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 4:31 PM Subject: [THIN] HRP2 is out HRP2 is out, well, close since the download isn't linked yet but here is the link: http://support.citrix.com/kb/entry.jspa?entryID=10769 Jeff Pitsch Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server Forums not enough? Get support from the experts at your business http://jeffpitschconsulting.com <http://jeffpitschconsulting.com/> "This e-mail may contain confidential and/or legally proprietary material for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies."