[THIN] Re: Generally speaking - hardware

  • From: "Joe Shonk" <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:40:21 -0700

For a terminal server that's crazy talk.  If you use the 4GT then it'll be
3GB for x86 and 4GB for x64.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Braebaum, Neil
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:07 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Generally speaking - hardware

Well there's always /3GB but I see your point, there's still no such
thing as a free lunch.

Neil 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Shonk
> Sent: 21 July 2008 19:37
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Generally speaking - hardware
> 
> Right on except its 2 GB per process not 4GB.  And even with 
> a x64 platform you're still running 32-bit code.  
> 
> Joe
> 
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Landin, Mark
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 11:25 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Generally speaking - hardware
> 
> A 32-bit OS cannot provide more than 4GB to a given process. 
> However, a server running 32-bit Windows Server 2003 
> Enterprise edition, for isntance, can address up to 32GB of 
> memory, and dole it out to individual processes as long as 
> each chunk does not exceed 4 GB.
> 
> In thin computing, it's rare to see any process which 
> requires > 4GB. (CAD, GIS, and other scientific applications 
> are about the only ones that do so). However, it's somewhat 
> easy to find 10 processes each needing 500MB. You could not 
> run the former type of application well on a 32-bit OS, but 
> the latter applications would run fine on a 32-bit OS as long 
> as the OS itself could address more than 4GB in total (which 
> W2K3 Enterprise edition can). Therefore, it's possible you 
> could run 30 users on a heavy app without going 64-bit. Right?
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of GTaylor@xxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 12:43 PM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Generally speaking - hardware
> 
> That depends on the application.  Small applications you may 
> be able to get upwards of 40 users, but that's unusual.  A 
> couple things to keep in mind, number 1 being that if your 
> running a 32-bit OS your not going to use more than 4gig, so 
> don't bother putting it in.  I also would not run a 
> Presentation Server with less than 4gig.  If you want to get 
> 30 users on a heavy application go to 64-Bit and load up the memory.
> 
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Beckett, 
> William (Bill)
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 11:37 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Generally speaking - hardware
> 
> What do most of you run, memory wise for about a 25-30 user 
> load per server for PS 4.0 on W2K3? 4GB memory? Less? More? 



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