[THIN] Fw: Re: Help with an app - Quicken Cashbook 2005
- From: Jeremy Saunders <jeremy.saunders@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 15:47:58 +0800
Got it...
You need to add "Users" to the "Computer Configuration\Windows
Settings\Security Settings\Local Policies\User Rights Assignment\Debug
programs" policy.
Kind regards,
Jeremy Saunders
Senior Technical Specialist
Integrated Technology Services &
Cerulean
IBM Australia
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22/02/2006 03:01 Quicken Cashbook 2005
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Hey Rick,
Only an Administrator can run handle.exe. When a user tries to run it they
get the message "Make sure that you are an Administrator" and get no
output. I'm sure that one of the Security policies will sort this out, but
I can't find which one to change. Have you come across this before?
Cheers.
Kind regards,
Jeremy Saunders
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Integrated Technology Services &
Cerulean
IBM Australia
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Hi Jeremy,
I was going to be lazy 'cause I used to have the source code for a bunch of
the sysinternals utils, from back in the days that Mark and Bryce provided
the source code as well. Looks like I've managed to lose it so I'll
actually have to do some real work.
Judging by the name of the mutex, it's definitely a recent code addition.
You can speed up your script a bit by skipping the file redirections, eg.
FOR /F "tokens=3 delims= " %%A IN ('handle -a -u -p qw.exe ^| find
"%username%" ^| find "qw.exe"') DO SET PID=%%A
::Find the hexadecimal handle number for the mutex
FOR /F "tokens=1 delims=:" %%A IN ('handle -a -p %PID% ^| find "QW is
Running"') DO SET MUTEX=%%A
::Remove leading spaces
SET MUTEX=%MUTEX: =%
::Close the handle
echo Y| handle -c %MUTEX% -p %PID%
But it's not bad as is ;-)
regards,
Rick
Ulrich Mack
Volante Systems
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Sent: Fri 17/02/2006 1:09
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Subject: [THIN] Re: Help with an app - Quicken Cashbook 2005
Hi Rick,
Yep...I've been playing with it. It took a bit of getting used to, but I've
got it working with the following script.
---------------Start of script--------------
::After Quicken 2005 has been launched we need to find the PID of the
qw.exe process for the user.
handle -a -u -p qw.exe | find "%username%" | find "qw.exe" >pid.txt
FOR /F "tokens=3 delims= " %%A IN (pid.txt) DO SET PID=%%A
::Find the hexadecimal handle number for the mutex
handle -a -p %PID% | find "QW is Running" >mutex.txt
FOR /F "tokens=1 delims=:" %%A IN (mutex.txt) DO SET MUTEX=%%A
::Remove leading spaces
SET MUTEX=%MUTEX: =%
::Close the handle
::Note: It is possible that two different processes may have different
handles to different objects with the same values.
::Therefore it's important to reference the PID when closing the handle.
This makes sure that the correct handle is closed.
echo Y| handle -c %MUTEX% -p %PID%
---------------End of script--------------
Contents of the pid.txt file...
qw.exe pid: 2196 DOMAIN\administrator
Contents of the mutex.txt file...
DC: Mutant \BaseNamedObjects\QW is Running
Could you do this any better? I wouldn't mind doing it in C without needing
to rely upon the handle.exe util.
Cheers.
Kind regards,
Jeremy Saunders
Senior Technical Specialist
Integrated Technology Services &
Cerulean
IBM Australia
Level 2, 1060 Hay Street
West Perth WA 6005
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Hi Jeremy,
Have a look at the Handle utility from sysinternals. Not sure whether it'll
close a mutex, but if it does...
All you'd have to do is a bit of scripting to run handle after quicken.
That gets around any privileges issues.
In the mean time I'll see if I can dig up some code for you.
regards,
Rick
Ulrich Mack
Volante Systems
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Sent: Thu 16/02/2006 10:21
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Hi Rick,
Yes...you were right. Our e-mails crossed in the night. Closing the handle
for one of the Mutex's fixes the problem.
Can I be cheeky and ask you to point me in the direction of the C code? I
can quite happily code in C, but I'm not sure I'm following you...if you
know what I mean.
Cheers.
Kind regards,
Jeremy Saunders
Senior Technical Specialist
Integrated Technology Services &
Cerulean
IBM Australia
Level 2, 1060 Hay Street
West Perth WA 6005
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15/02/2006 08:53 Quicken Cashbook 2005
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Hi Jeremy,
Been looking at a single instance executable (a service). Process Explorer
should give you exactly what you need. Check the mutant handles with
"mutex" in the name. Try closing them individually (careful, may crash your
machine) and starting up another instance of quicken.
If there aren't any with mutex in the name, try closing the mutants and
semaphores one by one (restarting App in between trying to start up another
instance). When you find the right one then you're a bit of C code away
from running Quicken multi-user.
regards,
Rick
Ulrich Mack
Volante Systems
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Sent: Wed 15/02/2006 19:45
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Subject: [THIN] Help with an app - Quicken Cashbook 2005
Hi All,
I've installed Quicken Home and Business 2005/06 (AKA Quicken Cashbook
2005) onto a test Windows 2003 PS4 box for a customer and have found that
when more than one copy of the application is run up the user is prompted
with a message box that says "Another user is already running this
application." When the user clicks okay, the program ends. So I installed
the whole app into an AIE hoping that it would then be isolated. But
unfortunately this problem is still occurring. I'm 99% sure that I've got
the AIE configured correctly.
I've tried everything I know of, such as...
1. Creating multiple executables qw.exe, qw2.exe, etc.
2. Enabling security auditing in-case filemon is missing something
3. Filemon - there are no sharing violations
4. Regmon
5. Process Explorer
6. Enabled all sorts of auditing
7. Excluding the program from Memory Optimisation
8. Installing more than one copy of the program into different folders and
used a qw.exe.local file
Process Explorer showed me what dll's were open at the time the 2nd user
received the error, so I used reshack to find which dll contained the
StringTable with the text "Another user is already running this
application.". Sure enough when I change this text the user gets a
different prompt. The original line in reshacker is...
2029, "Another user is already running this application."
What is the number 2029 referencing?
I want to somehow suppress this error so that the program will continue on
its own accord, but I'm running out of ideas on how this can be achieved.
Of course Quicken support are no help, as the program is not written for
multiuser environments.
It's funny that Quicken Cashbook 8, 2003 and 2004 work 100% on PS4, but the
latest version seems to be quite locked down.
As I'm writing this e-mail I'm thinking about the Application Compatibility
Toolkit. I haven't tried that one yet.
Any ideas would be much appreciated?
Cheers.
Kind regards,
Jeremy Saunders
Senior Technical Specialist
Integrated Technology Services &
Cerulean
IBM Australia
Level 2, 1060 Hay Street
West Perth WA 6005
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