my typing & grammar is seriously crocked today, I must need more caffine On 24/11/05, Tom Howarth <tom.howarth@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > point taken, however they are not attempted to pass of the work as > their own and have acknowledged all copyrights. > > On 24/11/05, Lilley, Brian <brian.lilley@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > well, I think the argument MS would have is that you must have reverse > > engineered machinecode to understand where one needed to poke the bytes??! > > unless of course, the dudes at Log*in are very very lucky. in which case I > > am going to ask them for some Lotto numbers. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On > > Behalf Of Tom Howarth > > Sent: 24 November 2005 11:29 > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [THIN] Re: Flex Profiles Kit - License Infringement? > > > > > > I'm not a Coder but my veiw s > > > > on reverse engineering is to faithfully imitate a product with the > > express desire to replicate all functions and pass it off as your own > > work. (not the case here as the file is only modified and all licenses > > are references and noted) > > > > Decomplication - surely this means returning the product to raw code. > > (definaltely not the case here) > > > > Disassembly ( I thought that was only done to Johny 5) ;-) > > > > how different is this modifcation by a HEX editor to what you can do > > with Spy++ etc > > > > > > On 24/11/05, Andrew Wood <andrew.wood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Well - that'd be my line - and the closest I could see was > > > > > > 4. LIMITATIONS ON REVERSE ENGINEERING, DECOMPILATION, AND > > > DISASSEMBLY. > > > You may not reverse engineer, decompile, or disassemble the Software, > > > except > > > and only to the extent that such activity is expressly permitted by > > > applicable law notwithstanding this limitation. > > > > > > But, I'd argue that the modification with a hex editor in the context of > > > the > > > flex tool's use is neither reverse engineering, decompliation or > > > disassembly... > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > > > Behalf > > > Of Tom Howarth > > > Sent: 24 November 2005 10:50 > > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: [THIN] Re: Flex Profiles Kit - License Infringement? > > > > > > My thoughts are that the ORK is a free download and therefore > > > distributable, > > > however the issue is whether the editing of the file with the HEX editor > > > causes an infringment. But to be honest I have not read the EULA in > > > detail. > > > > > > On 24/11/05, Andrew Wood <andrew.wood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > The flex profile kit utilises code from the Office Resource kit - > > > > which is modified using a hex editor - all fine and dandy open and > > > > above board and its mentioned in the doco. > > > > > > > > Theres been an interesting debate today in the office as to whether > > > > that makes the deployment of the tool legal - as the kit ultimately > > > > relies on a modified binary. > > > > > > > > Anyone know/have thoughts on this? > > > > > > > > Tia. > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------- > > > > Andrew Wood > > > > Sunderland > > > > United Kingdom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Tom at home > > > ************************************************ > > > For Archives, RSS, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation > > > mode > > > use the below link: > > > //www.freelists.org/list/thin > > > ************************************************ > > > > > > ************************************************ > > > For Archives, RSS, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or > > > set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: > > > //www.freelists.org/list/thin > > > ************************************************ > > > > > > > > > -- > > Tom at home > > ************************************************ > > For Archives, RSS, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or > > set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: > > //www.freelists.org/list/thin > > ************************************************ > > > > ============================================================================== > > Please access the attached hyperlink for an important electronic > > communications disclaimer: > > > > http://www.csfb.com/legal_terms/disclaimer_external_email.shtml > > > > ============================================================================== > > > > ************************************************ > > For Archives, RSS, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or > > set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: > > //www.freelists.org/list/thin > > ************************************************ > > > > > -- > Tom at home > -- Tom at home ************************************************ For Archives, RSS, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: //www.freelists.org/list/thin ************************************************