[THIN] Re: Flash on MF XPe 1.0

  • From: "Shawn Tooley" <shawn.tooley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 01:05:59 -0400

Pretty neat stuff!

Shawn Tooley
Senior Network Engineer
MCSE, MCT, CCNA, ASE, CCEA, CCSP
ComputerMixx
(330)264-5383 Ext:231
Pager: 3307140504@xxxxxxxxx
shawn.tooley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Rob Slayden
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 8:50 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Flash on MF XPe 1.0


Not at all. 24 Hour Fitness owns and operates about 380 fitness clubs
nationally. Each of our clubs is connected back to the corporate data
center through a DSL-based VPN link. Each club has 8 to 12 Wyse CE-based
Winterms that run a published application consisting of Internet
Explorer in kiosk mode that is configured to start our web-based
membership application. The web-based application is used to enroll
members and handle all the additional ancillary functions associated
with club membership such as fitness training sessions, member
check-ins, lead tracking, appointment booking, etc. There you have it! 

rob

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Shawn Tooley
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 4:38 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Flash on MF XPe 1.0

Rob,

If you don't mind me asking, what kind of application are you dealing
with.  I know it is a custom application-but, what is it for?


Shawn Tooley
Senior Network Engineer
MCSE, MCT, CCNA, ASE, CCEA, CCSA
ComputerMixx
(330)264-5383 Ext:231
Pager: 3307140504@xxxxxxxxx
shawn.tooley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  

----- Original Message -----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thu Sep 28 13:46:47 2006
Subject: [THIN] Re: Flash on MF XPe 1.0

Steve,
 
That is somewhat promising news, particularly after Rick Mack's response
<g>. I guess due diligence dictates that I throw up PS 4 (was that a
Freudian slip?) and test the app over it. I have also implemented an
evaluation of Provision Networks Provision Management Framework, so I
will test over that as well. There is really not much choice in the
matter; we will have to make it as painless as possible for the user as
we have moved forward and re-structured our departments in support of
the "new" way of doing things through the application. This came out of
the demonstration of a prototype. The development team is also looking
at ways they can minimize the detrimental effects of Flash. They had
originally developed the app with all the bells and whistles and sliding
windows and scrolling tickers and color gradations. Now that they have
seen the effect on bandwidth, they are making some mods that they hope
will decrease the bandwidth utilization.
 
Thanks,
 
rob 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Steve Greenberg
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 10:00 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Flash on MF XPe 1.0



Rob,

 

I believe that PS4 adds significant gains in general browser image
acceleration and in Flash support over XP. I can't speak to the
bandwidth differences using Flash9/Flex, this seems like an issue that
Adobe would need to address. 

 

Steve Greenberg

Thin Client Computing

34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453

Scottsdale, AZ 85262

(602) 432-8649

www.thinclient.net

steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Rob Slayden
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 12:37 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Flash on MF XPe 1.0

 

I have a couple of questions for the list, both relating to Flash. We
are currently making development changes to our internal application
that runs on Citrix through a browser (IE is what we publish) and they
are coding much of it with Adobe Flex, which uses Flash 9 on the server
side. During the bandwidth testing we just completed, there was a 512%
increase in bandwidth utilization between the original non-flash version
of the app and the updated Flash 9/Adobe Flex version of the app. Our
server side is MF XPe 1.0 FR3/SP4 on Server 2003 (no SP1). The client
side terminals are Wyse 3350, 3360, 3125 and S30 terminals, so we have
CE 2.12 to CE.Net and ICA 6.20 through 9.04. My questions are as
follows:

 

1. Are there any tweaks or tunes that will help Flash run better in our
current environment?

2. Are the changes between XP 1.0 and PS 4.0 from a Flash perspective
enough to benefit users and reduce bandwidth? Note that we would likely
have to fork over about $1.5 mill to update our environment as we passed
on the SA and we would also have to upgrade about half of our terminals
in order to get 9.x ICA client support.

 

Any comments, ideas, suggestions, or alternatives would be greatly
appreciated.

 

Thanks!

 

rob

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