[THIN] Re: Failing system services due to Access Denied
- From: "Stephen Greenberg" <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 20:20:23 -0800
Turns out that it was a big mish mash of issues. There was the known problem
of the local security policy somehow getting out of sync and also the file
system rights for the "system" account. The whole thing was a rather
confusing mess, but I have worked through most of it. The scariest thing was
to find out that so many common services depend on a house of cards to work
properly including vital things like virus scans and backups!
Thanks for the helpful input.....
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
(602) 296-0411 fax
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Mario Villarreal
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 11:40 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Failing system services due to Access Denied
Let me know how it goes.....
-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Greenberg [mailto:steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 12:13 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Failing system services due to Access Denied
That sounds like the most likely candidate, I think there was "locking down"
that went on and it may be that System lacks rights to the system drive
itself
thanks
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
(602) 296-0411 fax
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Mario Villarreal
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 11:02 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Failing system services due to Access Denied
We have many w2k machines in our NT domain. Did you login to the w2k box
with the local admin account and make sure that the domain admins have full
control, also make sure that "system" has full control to all the drives.
We had this issue before, and that's how we resolved it. Not sure if it
helps, but there you go.
-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Greenberg [mailto:steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 11:45 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Failing system services due to Access Denied
Server is a member of the NT 4 domain, the user I log in the Administrator.
The problem is that automatic services are failing with a rights issue on
boot up, or, when I try to start them as Administrator. These are services
that require they be run as the LocalSystem account. I am not clear on how
to affect that account.
thanks
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
(602) 296-0411 fax
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Paul DeHaan
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 10:39 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Failing system services due to Access Denied
I have seen that happen a few times when the account you are logging
into the server doesn't have those rights. Add the Domain user that you
are logging into that server with to the policy...
Also since this is a member server (assuming)..is this user part of the
local Administrators group?
Paul
>>> steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 02/19/03 02:28PM >>>
Does this apply to the localsystem account? This is not an actual user
account like administrator, joe, etc.
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
(602) 296-0411 fax
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Paul DeHaan
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 10:19 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Failing system services due to Access Denied
If you are running an NT4.0 domain, you will need to set the Local
Security Policy for that Win2k machine. You will need give the
account
that you are using access to the following:
Find these under \Local policies\User rights assignments
Log on as a service
Log on as a batch job
Log on locally
You will need local Admin privs to make these changes.
HTH,
Paul
>>> steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 02/19/03 02:00PM >>>
I have a client with a new Win2000 TS box in an NT4 domain. What is
happening is that certain local services, such as Task Schedule and TS
Licensing, fail to start due to "Error 5: Access Denied". What is
happening
is that the system will not start services that use the LocalSystem
account.
I found info at MS Support related to AD Group Policies causing this,
but
the info does not directly apply to WIN2K in an NT domain. Does
anybody
know
the fix? Note- If run other services as Administrator they work, but
certain
ones must run as LocalSystem
thanks
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
(602) 296-0411 fax
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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