[THIN] FW: Re: Remote Desktop Web Connection ActiveX
- From: Cláudio Rodrigues <Claudio.Rodrigues@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 14:43:58 -0400
This is the answer I got from Microsoft.
Cláudio Rodrigues
Microsoft MVP
Windows Technologies - Terminal Server
-----Original Message-----
From: XXX [mailto:XXX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 1:17 PM
To: Claudio.Rodrigues@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [THIN] Re: Remote Desktop Web Connection ActiveX
You can?t hide the connection bar in the web case because it?s a
security feature. We want to ensure people know they?re doing something
remote, and prevent Trojan horse opportunities in web pages.
To clarify the discussion below, the ocx and the client are basically
identical, the main place you?ll see differences is what?s available
from script. They are only different so that if you go in to IE and
remove web components, you don?t wreck mstsc.exe or the TS MMC
functionality (as system components).
_____
From: Cláudio Rodrigues [mailto:Claudio.Rodrigues@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 10:23 PM
To: XXX
Subject: FW: [THIN] Re: Remote Desktop Web Connection ActiveX
Hey XXX,
Would you be able to pass this around to the developers to see what is
up? Why some methods/properties do not work properly on the latest RDP
OCX? The guy explained in detail what he is trying to accomplish and
where it is failing.
Thanks!
Cláudio Rodrigues
Microsoft MVP
Windows Technologies - Terminal Server
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Cláudio Rodrigues
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 1:06 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Remote Desktop Web Connection ActiveX
Both have their CONs and PROs. MSIs would be perfect for an organization
using AD to deploy software for example. The OCX may give you issues
when a security patch is released (do you remember the 052, don?t you?).
I will ask the guys at MS to see what they say before we try to hack the
OCX, as we did with the executable. :-)
Cláudio Rodrigues
Microsoft MVP
Windows Technologies - Terminal Server
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Sjolund, Dag
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 12:32 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Remote Desktop Web Connection ActiveX
Thanks for the feedback. If you are talking about the controls used by
the inadequate "sample page" that MS provides with the ActiveX, that may
be the case, but with the OCX release that accompanied Windows 2003
Server your statement is not accurate. It may be the other way around
actually....... You will need to expand somewhat (read: "greatly") on
the "sample page" to get the desired functionality, however. I
currently have every control and function that the MSI (GUI)
incorporates working properly with the OCX version, except for the
Connection bar issue (which really is a minor one, but should work
properly nonetheless). Just as an FYI, below is a partial, alphabetical
list of "methods" or control functions that you have available with the
Win2k3 based OCX version.
Not that you asked, but the only advantage I see with the MSI version is
the ability to save the "Connection Settings" as a file for later use.
This, however, is minor in comparison to the benefits of having a
centralized (and customizable) web based launch point vs. the major
disadvantages of a distributed PC based (and controlled) MSI client
architecture. From client configuration, upgradability, and overall
flexibility perspectives, I would have strong reservations about using
the MSI version for any decent size Terminal Services solution.
Regards,
Dag Sjolund
Senior Systems Engineer
Best Western International, Inc. "THE WORLD'S LARGEST HOTEL CHAIN®"
OCX Methods and controls:
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings.PluginDlls
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.AcceleratorPassthrough
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.BitmapCacheSize
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.BitmapPersistence
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.BitmapVirtualCache16BppSize
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.BitmapVirtualCache24BppSize
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.BitmapVirtualCacheSize
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.ClearTextPassword
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.ConnectToServerConsole
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.DedicatedTerminal
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.DisableCtrlAltDel
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.DisplayConnectionBar
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.DoubleClickDetect
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.EnableAutoReconnect
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.EnableMouse
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.EnableWindowsKey
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.FullScreen
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.GrabFocusOnConnect
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.HotKeyAltEsc
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.HotKeyAltShiftTab
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.HotKeyAltSpace
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.HotKeyAltTab
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.HotKeyCtrlAltDel
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.HotKeyCtrlEsc
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.InputEventsAtOnce
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.KeepAliveInterval
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.KeyboardType
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.MaxEventCount
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.MaximizeShell
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.MaxReconnectAttempts
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.MinInputSendInterval
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.MinutesToIdleTimeout
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.NumBitmapCaches
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.OrderDrawThreshold
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.OverallConnectionTimeout
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.PerformanceFlags
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.PersistCacheDirectory
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.PinConnectionBar
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.RdpdrClipCleanTempDirString
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.RdpdrClipPasteInfoString
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.RdpdrLocalPrintingDocName
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.RDPPort
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.RedirectDrives
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.RedirectPorts
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.RedirectPrinters
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.RedirectSmartCards
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.ScaleBitmapCachesByBPP
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.ShadowBitmap
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.ShutdownTimeout
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.SingleConnectionTimeout
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.SmartSizing
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.SmoothScroll
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings3.ConnectionBarShowMinimizeButton
MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings3.ConnectionBarShowRestoreButton
MsRdpClient.ColorDepth
MsRdpClient.SecuredSettings.AudioRedirectionMode
MsRdpClient.SecuredSettings.KeyboardHookMode
MsRdpClient.SecuredSettings.StartProgram
MsRdpClient.SecuredSettings.WorkDir
-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Oglesby [mailto:roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 2:57 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Remote Desktop Web Connection ActiveX
Having messed with that some I can tell you the OCX (web client) and the
MSI (Full RDC client) are worlds apart. While you may have several
controls and functions available on the full client most are sorely
lacking in the web version. You are most likely out of luck.
Ron Oglesby
Senior Technical Architect
RapidApp
Office 312.372.7188
Mobile 815.325.7618
email roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: Sjolund, Dag [mailto:Sjolund@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 10:09 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Remote Desktop Web Connection ActiveX
Using the Remote Desktop Web Connection ActiveX control, I am trying to
configure the Connection bar to ?Display? AND ?Auto-hide?. Having the
Connection bar displayed is the default behavior, but the Auto-hide
option is not. When the appropriate methods are called they error out.
Is there anyway to enable/configure the
?MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.DisplayConnectionBar? and
?MsRdpClient.AdvancedSettings2.PinConnectionBar? methods? If no, why
not? The ?Display Connection bar? options is configurable in the
MSI/EXE version of the RDP client and should be available AND
configurable in the OCX version as well as. Any input/feedback is
appreciated.
Thanks,
Dag
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