[THIN] Re: FW: Printer Ports are going the way of the Dodo?
- From: Angus Macdonald <angus.Macdonald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:46:15 +0100
Most of my client machines are running Win 95 OSR2.1. A lot of them are
early Pentiums with only 32MB of memory so the OS suits them perfectly and
runs all the software we need, so why should we upgrade? It would cost a
fortune on hard and software costs, not to mention engineering time and all
we would have is the same functionality on a newer platform. Many of my Word
users still use Wordperfect function keys, not because they don't know about
all the whizzbang things Word can do but simply because they don't need them
to perform their jobs. I'd rather convert all my old PCs to dedicated Citrix
terminals - much better use of the kit.
Regards
Angus
-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Beekmans [mailto:robbeekmans@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 19 July 2002 21:55
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: FW: Printer Ports are going the way of the Dodo?
Jan,
I agree on the mentality thing, people tend to desire the newest. I guess
it's human nature, or just plain brainwashing of the vendors......
For upgrading NT4 to Win2K that's a different story....Win2k is so much more
stable and managable in combination with AD that it does provide extra a lot
of extra functionality worth the upgrade.
The reason for upgrading from W2k to WinXP for client workstations is beyond
me, I've seen it worked with it and removed it...my daughter (3) liked the
TeleTubbies background but that is not worth the money.
I won't go to .NET for thousand of reason but most of all Win2k runs fine. I
can't think of any customer we have that will be intrested in .NET for they
just upgraded to Win2K.
and for hardware, if it runs it runs...I like the old systems because they
kept running...The new stuff keeps me adjusting my project planning, for
everything has to stop working (raid controllers). and now with compaq and
hp merging I fear for more faulty systems....
at home I run a few PII 233 systems as server and they will do so for a
while.
Just my 0,02 EUR cents for this thread.
grx
Rob Beekmans
A-Tree Automatisering
----- Original Message -----
From: Jan <mailto:tinybeetle@xxxxxxxxx> Broucinek
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 9:52 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: FW: Printer Ports are going the way of the Dodo?
I have to disagree. We have been too brainwashed into the mentality of "I
have to have it since it is newer, faster, or more powerful." If you have a
product, device, or software that does the job you need it to do, does not
hinder you from doing things you want to do, and does it with sufficient
speed and easy of use, then there is no need to upgrade. At the point that
one of these becomes a factor, then and only then is it time to investigate
options.
Up until a year ago, my primary PC at home was a P133 with 32MB of RAM. I
used it for Word Processing and internet access. I didn't care if Word
opened in 20 seconds, vs. 5 seconds. It did the job I needed it to do. I
upgraded when I needed more power for video editing.
I still have an IBM 386 PS2 tower running DOS. It has a 20MB hard drive
(lol). It operates our electronic door system. I have an original Compaq
lunchbox PC that is used as the console for our phone system. Since our
company runs Citrix, as long as I can get windows up on a PC with at least
256 colors and decent network and video refresh rates, I don't care what the
hardware is like. The user sees what the Citrix server is doing, not their
desktop machine.
Up until about 6 months ago I had an HPII and an HPIII in use on my network.
They would still be in use today if I could have upgraded the memory for
less hassle than buying an HP1200.
I have monitors that are 5 years old in use in my network. The only reason
to replace them is if they die. The same goes for the HP4, 5, 6 and similar
series of printers. I certainly would never buy a PC or thin client device
that didn't have a VGA, parallel, and serial port on it.
I will let my dollars do the speaking for me. When I go to purchase, if the
vendor doesn't support my hardware needs, they won't get my business.
Someone else will.
Jan Broucinek, System Manager
Arthur Rutenberg Homes, Inc.
(727) 536-5900 voice
(727) 536-7168 x245 direct
(727) 538-9089 fax
<http://www.arhomes.com> www.arhomes.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Stephen <mailto:sherrera@xxxxxxxxxx> Herrera
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 3:19 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: FW: Printer Ports are going the way of the Dodo?
A horse and carriage still work too. I don't see too many of them roaming
around anymore. If I want to stay competitive I better be driving something
a bit more competitive. Even if the old stuff still does work for you
eventually you have to get the latest and greatest unless your system is
totally isolated and is only used by yourself. There comes a point where it
is not longer practical to make the old work with then new and in our field
that time keeps getting shorter and shorter.
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
Of Jim Kenzig
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 11:53 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: FW: Printer Ports are going the way of the Dodo?
Well the usually intelligent human beings do not throw away things that
still work. Just because a company chooses not to support something I have
does not mean that it doesn't work for me. Those vendors that continue to
have legacy ports on their equipment are the ones who will get my money.
Ala http://www.netxinc.com <http://www.netxinc.com>
for example.
Regards,
Jim Kenzig
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
Of Joe Shonk
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 2:38 PM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: FW: Printer Ports are going the way of the Dodo?
Support for NT4 also going away...
It's funny how people always want to use old stuff with new stuff and
expects it all to work perfectly.
Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Patten [ mailto:pattenj@xxxxxxxx <mailto:pattenj@xxxxxxxx> ]
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 11:37 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] FW: Printer Ports are going the way of the Dodo?
I was just on the phone with a guy who does Consulting/PC support for one of
our customers, and we were discussing a printing issue (The client had a
USB printer) since we are still Running on NT4 they are unable to print, and
he informed me that starting next year PC's will no longer have the parallel
or serial ports ONLY USB. Has anyone heard this?
I noticed the post about the WYSE terminals dropping legacy support. Does
this hold for PC's too?
Jason
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