[THIN] Re: Disabled Logins & Rebooting
- From: "Joe Shonk" <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 10:45:32 -0700
You are correct, if you enable logins and reboot. Logins will be enabled
when the server come back up. If you set it to disabled, then when you
reboot the server logins will be disabled. Now a couple caveats. The IMA
service stores this setting in the Local Host Cache. So if you stop the IMA
service and change the login type, the server will come up in the state
before IMA was stopped. Second, if you recreate the local host cache the
setting will be reset. Personally, I think the LHC was a bad place to put
the setting. It should have been a registry key. Something easily to
manipulate.
Joe
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Eilers, Lee (CDC/OCOO/ITSO) (CTR)
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 10:33 AM
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Subject: [THIN] Re: Disabled Logins & Rebooting
That was suggested earlier and I did create that evaluator.
I also had pressed on our engineer at Citrix and he mentioned that it is a
"feature" of MPS 3.0. In the CMC, for MPS3 with SP4 and PS4, under
Metaframe Settings, Control Options, it says The "logon" setting remains in
effect after restarting server. Their interpretation is that this means it
will be enabled on reboot. I read this to mean that what ever setting I do,
it will "remain in effect" after a restart.
Picture (Metafile)
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Maddox, Cole
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 1:01 PM
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Subject: [THIN] Re: Disabled Logins & Rebooting
Lee,
Rather than disabling your logins, have you considered using a load
evaluator? You could create one using the scheduling rule, remove the
"times of day" when the server is available, and then assign it to the
server you wish to reboot. This will prevent users from getting access but
you could still connect via the console, which you can't do if you disable
logons. Also, this will stay set regardless of whether or not you reboot
and regardless of whether you are running version 3 or 4. (Thanks to
BriForum 2006 for this tip).
Cole.
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(CTR)
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 11:08 AM
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Subject: [THIN] Re: Disabled Logins & Rebooting
Windows 2000 SP4 and MPS3.0 with SP4 (we are migrating to 2003 and MPS4
later this year.)
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mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Landin, Mark
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 10:11 AM
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Subject: [THIN] Re: Disabled Logins & Rebooting
Specify what OS and Citrix release you are using. They behave differently in
this area.
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Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 8:24 AM
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Subject: [THIN] Disabled Logins & Rebooting
Here's the situation:
I disable logins to one of my servers. I did this via the CMC and
via the command-line, "change logon /disable", just to be sure.
No users on the box.
Start, Shutdown, Restart box
In the CMC, Load Evaluators, I am seeing the users being directed to
various other boxes. All of a sudden, 14 users are sent to the box that was
offline and in the process of rebooting. The box evidently is marked by
Citrix to enabled mode prior to the reboot.
This has been a REAL pet PIEVE of mine about when rebooting servers,
that they come backup enabled and ready to accept connections, but I had not
realized the impact it was having as they went down for a reboot.
Why is it that a server would be enabled just as it is being
rebooted? and to make matters worse, users are being directed to that box
while it is going down, where the logic?!?!? <RANT>
So, am I missing something, or has everyone been suffering along on
this issue?
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