[THIN] Re: Design Ideas?

  • From: Magnus Hjorleifsson <magnus@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: "thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 22:07:28 -0400

That one box crashes and you are up a creek

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On Mar 26, 2010, at 12:44, "Roger Riggins" <roger.riggins@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Why not just leave it one box and dump all of the users into that? I t’s all the same app, right? What are the VMs for? I’m not challenging it; I just don’t get it I guess.



Roger







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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Shonk
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 9:59 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Design Ideas?



Use Nehalem processors… But not 64 gigs.. 64 Gigs is an odd number for the Nehalem architecture. Either 48 gigs with 4 gig DIMMs or 96 gig DIMMs. Pick a platform that run either of those memory configs at 1333MT/s.



Use Citrix Provisioning Services. Just do it. But make them Physical Boxes.



Application virtualization will help you realize a single silo.



Partition the Server, don’t over subscribe CPU or memory. So if you have a box with 32 logical processors (16 cores, 16 HT), then plan for 2 x 16 VMs. Using CPU pinning/masking may also increase your us e density.



Joe



From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of GTaylor@xxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 7:09 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Design Ideas?



Hello,



We currently have a farm with about 50 servers, both physical and VMWare VMs, all Xenapp 4.5, 32 and 64 bit. 28 of the physical servers are for a single application silo, running 2003R2 64-Bit running on IBM HS21 Blades, Dual Dual cores with 5GB. I’m looking a t changing the design of this one application silo (user count is ge tting ready to go way up) and am looking for some ideas.

The boss gave me 2 requirements, the fastest performance we can get and a smaller foot print. One idea we are looking at is going to big servers, IBM 3650s, 12 or 16 Cores with 64 Gig RAM, running Xenserver with Xenapp VMs. However, I worry that we’ll run into a bottleneck somewhere and not be able to get the number of VMs needed for the performance I want.



What is folks’ opinion on Xenserver VMs verses smaller physical mach ines? We run fairly good with ~15 users per Xenapp server on the H S21s, do you think the VMs can perform well enough to get more users on them? Basically I’m looking for any ideas for better performanc e while being able to handle about a 30% user increase.



Thanks,



George Taylor

Systems Programmer

Regional Health Inc.




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