[THIN] Re: Default User

  • From: "Jim Kenzig Kenzig.com" <jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 16:23:31 -0800 (PST)

Interesting ...when trying to google TSCUPGRD.EXE (or look in any other search 
engine) that there are VERY few english pages that refer to this.  Most of the 
hits are from hijaakthis logs people have posted also not in english.   I am 
wondering if this was a non english "fix" that crept into an english hotfix 
somehow.  I can't find any reference to this file on the microsoft or citrix 
site. The file is definitely a Microsoft file. 
I don't know...it is considered a "Custom Action dll"  whatever that means but 
there is some interesting stuff on what those do on the MSDN site at:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/msi/setup/debugging_custom_actions.asp
 
I am very curious to see what the outcome of this is.
JK

Steve Greenberg <steveg@> wrote:

Hi Rick, 

First let me say that I continue to be blown away by the depth of your
knowledge!!

I do think it is related. What we are seeing is in relation to Pnagent
issues in that the TSCUPGRD.EXE process puts the system into install mode
and imposes one users settings on all future users. Perhaps the issues you
raised is the reason it does not go back into execute mode. We will look
into that...

Thanks again for the oustanding input....


Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
(602) 296-0411 fax 
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Rick Mack
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 2:11 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Default User

Hi Steve,

Wonder if that's the same feature as with ctfmon on Windows Server 2003.


Winlogon expects any process it's initialized to die before it will close
the logon process, and change the session back into execute mode. 

Ctfmon doesn't of course die, so that leaves the administrators session in
"install" mode.

Made for some really interesting times on a site where they had a bunch of
domain admins all using their admin accounts for normal use. 

Got a hotfix from Microsoft, KB826821 that fixed the issue with ctfmon.

Regards,

Rick 

Ulrich Mack
Volante Systems
Level 2, 30 Little Cribb Street
Coronation Drive Office Park
Milton Qld 4064
tel: +61 7 32431847
fax: +61 7 32431992
rmack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Steve Greenberg
Sent: Tuesday, 29 March 2005 2:38 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Default User


Hmmm, let me see....

Just in case anyone on any Microsoft OS in the future who happened to
have used Terminal Services clients at one time AND retained those
settings would automatically upgrade? Never mind the fact that the
process puts the sytems in change user /install mode !!

Remember the Monty Python skit about Mosquito hunting with a cannon???
:)


Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
(602) 296-0411 fax
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx





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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Joe Shonk
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 8:40 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Default User



Interesting, thanks... Any ideas as to why Microsoft put it in the
RunOnce key of the Default User? (I'm willing to settle for 'lack of
common sense')



Joe



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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Rick Mack
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 8:51 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Default User



Hi Steve,



I've had a look at the code in the executable. It's not a guess ;-)



regards,



Rick



Ulrich Mack 
Volante Systems 
Level 2, 30 Little Cribb Street 
Coronation Drive Office Park 
Milton Qld 4064 
tel: +61 7 32431847 
fax: +61 7 32431992 
rmack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 



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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Steve Greenberg
Sent: Sun 27/03/2005 1:20 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Default User

Rick,



Are you sure about that, or, is that a guess? It is causing some
significant issues on a current project and all known good info is
appreciated.....



Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
(602) 296-0411 fax
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx





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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Rick Mack
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 2:36 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Default User

Hi Michael,



Try Terminal Server Client UPGRaDe.



Appears to delete old TSC/RDP client and migrate connection settings etc
to the existing version.



regards,



Rick



Ulrich Mack 
Volante Systems 
Level 2, 30 Little Cribb Street 
Coronation Drive Office Park 
Milton Qld 4064 
tel: +61 7 32431847 
fax: +61 7 32431992 
rmack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 



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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Callahan, Michael
Sent: Sun 27/03/2005 12:23 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Default User

It's a mystery to me; it seems to be a custom setup file by Microsoft.
Perhaps it is used to properly set up the user's environment in a TS
session. The file shows to be from MS, but there is no info out there
on what it does.

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Shonk [mailto:joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 10:50 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Default User

Hello,



Does anyone know what the file tscupgrd.exe does? It is
executed when a user gets a new profile (It's located in the Default
User's hive, executed from the RunOnce key)



Joe

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