[THIN] Re: DESPARATE FOR HELP Pauses ever since w2k SP3

  • From: "Stratton, Doug MSER:EX" <Doug.M.Stratton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 09:50:45 -0800

Just wanted to thank you all.  It looks like it was the RAID controller
BIOS.

This took months to resolve.  I should have asked here sooner.

Thank everyone.

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Mike Semon
Sent: Tue, February 17, 2004 4:24 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: DESPARATE FOR HELP Pauses ever since w2k SP3


Also is disk write caching enabled on the RAID controller?

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Chris Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 5:30 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: DESPARATE FOR HELP Pauses ever since w2k SP3



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I'm curious.  What server hardware are you running?  I have seen this on two
different occasions.

1.  The systems BIOS was out of date, as well as the RAID card firmware and
driver (Dell hardware) 2.  Using FR2, needed to install FR2 hotfix
XE102W057.msi or XE102W083.msi

This cleared up the problem for our clients.


Chris Lynch
lynch00@xxxxxxx

- -----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Roger Riggins
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 3:19 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: DESPARATE FOR HELP Pauses ever since w2k SP3

I'm having the exact same problem. Happens randomly across the servers
approx 1-2 times per week. User sessions hang after entering credentials.=20

I'm unable to log in at the console, but am able to browse admin shares
across the network. If I try to stop/start IMA from a remote machine, it
fails. XML restarts successfully.

Rebooting fixes it, and is the only way so far that I can get it back up and
running.

Nothing is logged to event viewer. I've been fighting this for about a
month, now.

Windows 2000 Server SP3, MFXP FR3 SP3, Access DB

Thanks,

R


- -----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Adam.Baum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 4:13 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: DESPARATE FOR HELP Pauses ever since w2k SP3


Oh my GOD!!! Yes, someone else has the same symptoms as I do.  Hurray!

Back to our story....
Ryan,  is the general symptom goes something like this:
   User connect normally and enters logon credentials
   User waits forever because logon never completes.
   Admins cannot logon locally at the console either.
   Using CMC from your desktop may show people logged in
   Logged on users never notice a problem
   Only reboot clears the error

This is what I get almost daily.  Changing datastores did not help.  I went
from Access to SQL.  I even reinstalled cleanly (yes, I had to reactivate
all my licenses).

I installed TScale a few days ago and it seems to help, but not get rid of
the problem completely.  The one server I am running it on has gone from
three lockups a day to one.  It's a little too early to tell if it really
helped that much because I activated it Thursday.  Given the long weekend
and our flexible work schedules, it's a bit premature to say it has helped.

One thing I do notice is that my farm that is only accessed by thin client
devices only locks up once every 5 weeks or so.  I think it has something to
do with either drive and/or printer mappings.

adam





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We have server lockups at login... just after the username/password are
entered.

We have to actually reboot the server/s to gain connectivity again. Updated
SCSI drivers, etc. Dual 1.2ghz with 1gb RAM, 2x 36gb 10k drives. It can have
one user on it, and still do the same. We know it is not hardware... or at
least, highly unlikely. It happens on 5 different servers randomly... and
one of them that does not run any of the applications that the others do.

We believe it is related to the data store... so we are moving one server
out into a new DB.

- -----Original Message-----
From: William Treloar [mailto:williamt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 2:06 PM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: DESPARATE FOR HELP Pauses ever since w2k SP3

Ohh the pain I went through with this one.=3D20 I updated every driver
imaginable Rolled back to Service pack 2 but=3D20 the Server would just
freeze for 10 or so seconds - I used diskmon to see when it was freezing and
I found on most cases, it was either loading one particular app or when a
user logged on .The app Ahh-ha but login on windows???, I was in trouble
Have you done the necessaries and run perfmon, does your process queue
length skyrocket?=3D20

- -----Original Message-----
From: Stratton, Doug MSER:EX [mailto:Doug.M.Stratton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2004 2:12 p.m.
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: DESPARATE FOR HELP Pauses ever since w2k SP3


Thanks for the suggestions I will give them a try.

- -----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Jeremy Saunders
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 3:43 PM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: DESPARATE FOR HELP Pauses ever since w2k SP3


Have you updated the Compaq/HP drivers? This was the issue I had on one site
when I upgraded them from SP2 to SP3. The pause was happening when users
logged in and out due to disk access reading and writing their profiles.
After updating the Compaq drivers, it came back to normal.

Cheers,
Jeremy.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Stratton, Doug MSER:EX = [mailto:Doug.M.Stratton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 6:39 AM
To: Thin (E-mail)
Subject: [THIN] DESPARATE FOR HELP Pauses ever since w2k SP3

We have a small farm of 6 W2K TS/Citrix metaframe xp. We were doing fine
until we had to install w2k SP3.=3D20 Now we have complete pauses 3-10 times
a day for 5-30 seconds.=3D20 We have installed Q324446.=3D20 two things we
could not do are:  the dskcache setting/tool we have a compaq computer with
raid controller and this tool does not work with this.=3D20 the other thing
we could not do
is:
If you use a file server to share data, use roaming profiles, or redirect
home folders for Terminal Services users. Configure the following registry
subkeys on all file servers:=3D20
*            In the
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Lanmanserver\Parame
ters
subkey, configure the following entries:=3D20
*            Name: MaxWorkItems
......
we have clients from all over the place and they have their own servers
where they get data from.=3D20 So we are stuck. We can't get rid of these
pauses and they seem to be because of sp3.=3D20 clients are starting to get
pissed. Has anyone come across this and if so what did you do to fix it.

Thanks

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