[THIN] Re: Confused about TS License server
- From: "Ron Oglesby" <roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 19:04:09 -0500
Jim this is not possible. Having worked with the MS reps at a VERY large
MS client with an unbelievable license contract on these vary issues
there is only one way around it. And that is a private piece of
Microsoft code that allows unlimited licenses.
But outside of the largest customers in the world you have to have a
license server.=20
Ron Oglesby
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Hathaway [mailto:JimH@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 5:40 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Confused about TS License server
Yes, very recently actually.=3D20
Some of our folks recently upgraded a client's domain model from NT 4.0
to Win2k. Once that was done, the existing win2k TS servers (which were
all staticly set in the registry to point to a specific Win2k member
server hosting the TS license service) all started within a few hours of
the migration to not accept incoming connections from any device, even
WinXP pro / Win2k pro stations.=3D20
The fix for this, was of course installing the TS license service
(re-authorizing it of course) to one of the new Win2k AD DC's, updating
the registry entry on all servers to point to the new TS license server,
and rebooting the TS servers.=3D20
If you're thinking it's possible to 'fake out' the service during
install to put it on something other than a DC within a Win2k domain,
you may be right. But I'm not sure I see the need as it's a service that
uses hardly any resources when running.=3D20
J
-----Original Message-----
From: Adam.Baum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Adam.Baum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 3:11 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Confused about TS License server
Ah..Now I see what you were talking about. I thought you were referring
to
the type of server, not domain. Have you actually confirmed this? Like
I
said, I got an error msg a few weeks back telling me that it could only
be
installed on DCs or servers in a workgroup, but the resolution was to
apply
an IP address.. The same info also appears in MS' unattended install
parameter doc.
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"Jim Hathaway"
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Not so what? You're running an NT 4.0 domain w/ win2k TS servers that
have the TS license service. Ok . . so? How is that different from my
statement that within an NT 4.0 domain;
"TS license service must be installed to any available win2k
server. Can be the TS servers, or any other win2k server that's within
the same domain."
The limitation is that if your domain is win2k, the license service can
only run on DC's. So when / if you upgrade your current NT 4.0 domain to
win2k AD, you're going to have to move your TS license service to a DC.
If you're not running a Win2k domain, as long as the TS license service
is installed to a win2k server (as you've apparently done at your site).
. you'll be fine.
Sorry if my statement wasn't clear enough on this.=3D3D20
J
-----Original Message-----
From: Adam.Baum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Adam.Baum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D20
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:53 PM
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Subject: [THIN] Re: Confused about TS License server
Not so. I am running TS Licensing on all my W2K servers and none of
them
are domain controllers and all servers are in an NT4 domain. The TS
License server came off of the W2K CD. My servers are at SP2 (some at
SP3).
I know MS makes this claim and in fact, I ran into an error msg the
other
day that said the same thing. My error turned out to be that I had no
IP
address. As soon as I gave it one, the problem went away.
If the workstations are running W2K Pro, or higher, then they may be
getting around the license issue that way since they come with a built
in
CALs.
adam
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"Jim Hathaway"
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Please respond to
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What type of domain are they Win2k? or NT 4.0?
Win2k, TS license service must be installed to a win2k DC. No way around
it.=3D3D3D20
NT 4.0, TS license service must be installed to any available win2k
server. Can be the TS servers, or any other win2k server that's within
the same domain.=3D3D3D20
HTH
J
-----Original Message-----
From: bbeckett2000@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:bbeckett2000@xxxxxxxxx]=3D3D3D20
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:30 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Confused about TS License server
I know someone who works at a facility where they are running 2000
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Server with Metaframe 1.8 on top. They have (3) of these boxes and none
is a TS=3D3D3D20
licensing server. There is no license server defined. How are they able
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still connect? I thought that you had 90 days and that was it. They've
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running that way for 6 months.
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