[THIN] Re: Compaq / HP Server testing results
- From: "Dez" <Dez_is@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 9:43:44 +0000
I totally agree Bernd, our CRM hits the servers harder than Office does, and
also we're required to run a fair amount of macro's within Office which doesn't
help the situation either. Having a known quantity in our existing DL580
though, I was hoping to be able to extrapolate the figures to give me a rough
idea of how many users we'd get on a 380 G3, so was looking more at the
comparative performance between the two reports, rather than the outright
figures.
cheers
Chris
======== At 2003-01-02, 17:24:00 Bernd Harzog wrote: ========
One thing that I have noticed about many of these tests (I have not seen
the ones specifically referenced in this thread). They are based upon
Microsoft Office as the application and define a heavy user as someone
who is doing a lot of typing in Word. Our experience is that business
applications like ERP (JD Edwards), CRM (Siebel), decision support
(Business Objects), or healthcare applications exact a much heavier load
upon the server than do Office application no matter how "heavily" the
Office applications are used.=20
Cheers,
Bernd Harzog
CEO
RTO Software
678-455-5506 x701
bernd@xxxxxxxxxxx
www.rtosoft.com
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From: Adam.Baum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Adam.Baum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 12:29 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Compaq / HP Server testing results
I'm also looking at those reports. Part of the reason for the big jump
is
that the DL380 G3 now uses Xeon processors that incorporate
HyperThreading
HyperThreading sort of makes one CPU into 1.5 CPUs. I won't get into
the
chip architecture, but if you are interested, Intel has quite a bit of
info
on it
In comparing the quad 900mhz dl580 vs a dual 2.8Ghz Dl380, you get more
work done on the DL380. If you want to see how MS 32bit issues affect
things, check out the 1.6GHz DL580 report. It tops out at two
processors,
not four due to PTE limitiations. If you want more, you'll need a 64bit
CPU/OS combination
adam
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Does anyone know how relevent the Compaq Thin Client server testing
documents are when comparing to the tests now done by HP? We currently
have
a DL580 quad Xeon 700Mhz with 4Gb RAM, and certainly don't get near the
number of "heavy" users they claim to be able to sustain, but its the
comparison between one server and another that I'm more interested in,
rather than outright numbers, as I know our apps are heavy on the server
and don't expect to be able to replicate the ideal
Looking at the report on the DL580, it seems to suggest that a 900Mhz
P3-Xeon in QUAD CPU Configuration supports LESS users than a new DL380
G3
with Dual "Xeon" 2.8Ghz server in an otherwise similar configuration
(120
"heavy" users compared to 122). The DL580 report was done by Compaq last
year, the new DL380 G3 report was done by HP, so I was wondering if the
testing was totally different and non-comparable? The reason I'm
suspicious
is that the DL380 G3 report claims only a 34% performance hike over an
old
DL380 1.266Ghz system, which doesnt sound like the kind of advantage a
quad
DL580 should have over a dual P3-1.2Ghz based system
Chris
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