[THIN] Re: Citrix releases SSL VPN Appliance

  • From: <Jeff.Pitsch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 09:38:30 -0500

I believe someone earlier mentioned there is a client piece to the
implementation of the hardware device.  The original company that
created the device probably did not create a client for those OS's.
Remember, right now this is strictly a rebranded product at this point.
I would guess in the future Citrix will release clients for a wider
audience.

Jeff Pitsch 

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Armstrong, Robert
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 8:34 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix releases SSL VPN Appliance

Greetings,
 
Anyone have any ideas why the supported clients for this appliance are
only Windows 2000, XP and Linux?  What about MAC and Pocket PC OSs.  Any
thoughts?
 
Regards,
Rob

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Raffensberger [mailto:sraffens1@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 1:53 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix releases SSL VPN Appliance


Actually, I see CSG as complementary to VPN's and would ideally like to
see
both.
 
In my experience, a VPN is useful and performs well when a user has
his/her
company owned computer outside the company walls and needs access to
some
company resource (email, file, printer, etc.).
 
However, if the user does not have a company computer or needs to access
a
company database, the VPN no longer works. Conversely, CSG can be made
available on airport kiosks, cyber cafe's, grandma's PC, Macintosh
computers, Linux computers, etc. It also performs database applications
much
better than a VPN connection due to the proximity of the database client
to
its server.
 
Lastly, I've seen VPN's become overwhelmed on snow days. A complementary
CSG
can offload enough traffic keep things performing well.
 
Just my $.02
 
Raff
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf
Of Roger Riggins
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 10:41 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix releases SSL VPN Appliance



We were excited to scrap all of our ipsec VPN's when we deployed CSG.
Are
you using them for access to stuff that isn't available via Citrix or am
I
missing something?

 

Thanks,

R

 

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of Lilley, Brian
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 9:23 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix releases SSL VPN Appliance

 

indeed, however, the access gateway compliments MSAM in terms of
providing
the SSL endpoints and providing ipsec like VPN's but all via SSL...

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf
Of BRUTON, Malcolm, FM
Sent: 04 February 2005 12:05
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix releases SSL VPN Appliance

Correct me if I'm wrong but this does away with needing CSG and provides
other appication support rather than just ICA?  In other words also
replacing some of MSAM capibilities.  Kill 2 products with one?.....A
hardware based products surely got to be better than some of the dodgy
software coding we see these days.....

 

What other products does this compete with from other companies?

 

Malcolm

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of Lilley, Brian
Sent: 04 February 2005 11:58
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix releases SSL VPN Appliance

Steve, I wonder if you can point me in the direction of some good
documentation on the exact workings of this device... or I guess more
specifically, I am trying to fully understand the subtleties of SSL,
PPTP
and Ipsec VPN's.

 

I have worked with a VPN set up over a PPTP connection before.  So, my
understanding is that this PPTP VPN is working at the network layer,
i.e.
you end up with an additional network entry in your routing table on the
client device which is tunneled through PPTP.

 

So, the SSL VPN works at the application layer and provides a TCP
tunnel?
how does this work exactly and how is this tunnel presented to the
client?  

 

What do they mean when they say Citrix leverages the SSL VPN along with
the
ipsec VPN.. does that mean you get a network route entry for tunneling
non
ICA traffic, and then you get SSL encryption for 'proxying' ICA
connections,
or have I just made all that up?

 

We are very interested in this box, but just not too sure about the
colour.

 

thanks in advance, Brian 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf
Of Steve Greenberg
Sent: 04 February 2005 05:23
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix releases SSL VPN Appliance

 

Now that this is public, I want to let everyone know that product
totally
rocks! It has all of the best attributes of an IPSec VPN and an SSL VPN
without the problems associated with both. While I have been less than
totally excited about some of Citrix's other new products over the last
few
years, this one is pretty awesome. I predict that it is going to take
off
and dominate the VPN market eventually.....

 

Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
(602) 296-0411 fax
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

 

 


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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of Jim Kenzig Kenzig.com
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 5:16 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Thinnews
Subject: [THIN] Citrix releases SSL VPN Appliance 

http://www.brianmadden.com/content/content.asp?id=303
<http://www.brianmadden.com/content/content.asp?id=303> 

and

http://www.citrix.com/site/PS/products/product.asp?familyID=%2013991
<http://www.citrix.com/site/PS/products/product.asp?familyID=%2013991&pr
oduc
tID=15005> &productID=15005

 

Jim Kenzig

http://thin.net <http://thin.net> 

 

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