Greetings, Anyone have any ideas why the supported clients for this appliance are only Windows 2000, XP and Linux? What about MAC and Pocket PC OSs. Any thoughts? Regards, Rob -----Original Message----- From: Steve Raffensberger [mailto:sraffens1@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 1:53 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix releases SSL VPN Appliance Actually, I see CSG as complementary to VPN's and would ideally like to see both. In my experience, a VPN is useful and performs well when a user has his/her company owned computer outside the company walls and needs access to some company resource (email, file, printer, etc.). However, if the user does not have a company computer or needs to access a company database, the VPN no longer works. Conversely, CSG can be made available on airport kiosks, cyber cafe's, grandma's PC, Macintosh computers, Linux computers, etc. It also performs database applications much better than a VPN connection due to the proximity of the database client to its server. Lastly, I've seen VPN's become overwhelmed on snow days. A complementary CSG can offload enough traffic keep things performing well. Just my $.02 Raff -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Roger Riggins Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 10:41 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix releases SSL VPN Appliance We were excited to scrap all of our ipsec VPN's when we deployed CSG. Are you using them for access to stuff that isn't available via Citrix or am I missing something? Thanks, R -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lilley, Brian Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 9:23 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix releases SSL VPN Appliance indeed, however, the access gateway compliments MSAM in terms of providing the SSL endpoints and providing ipsec like VPN's but all via SSL... -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of BRUTON, Malcolm, FM Sent: 04 February 2005 12:05 To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix releases SSL VPN Appliance Correct me if I'm wrong but this does away with needing CSG and provides other appication support rather than just ICA? In other words also replacing some of MSAM capibilities. Kill 2 products with one?.....A hardware based products surely got to be better than some of the dodgy software coding we see these days..... What other products does this compete with from other companies? Malcolm -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lilley, Brian Sent: 04 February 2005 11:58 To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix releases SSL VPN Appliance Steve, I wonder if you can point me in the direction of some good documentation on the exact workings of this device... or I guess more specifically, I am trying to fully understand the subtleties of SSL, PPTP and Ipsec VPN's. I have worked with a VPN set up over a PPTP connection before. So, my understanding is that this PPTP VPN is working at the network layer, i.e. you end up with an additional network entry in your routing table on the client device which is tunneled through PPTP. So, the SSL VPN works at the application layer and provides a TCP tunnel? how does this work exactly and how is this tunnel presented to the client? What do they mean when they say Citrix leverages the SSL VPN along with the ipsec VPN.. does that mean you get a network route entry for tunneling non ICA traffic, and then you get SSL encryption for 'proxying' ICA connections, or have I just made all that up? We are very interested in this box, but just not too sure about the colour. thanks in advance, Brian -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Steve Greenberg Sent: 04 February 2005 05:23 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix releases SSL VPN Appliance Now that this is public, I want to let everyone know that product totally rocks! It has all of the best attributes of an IPSec VPN and an SSL VPN without the problems associated with both. While I have been less than totally excited about some of Citrix's other new products over the last few years, this one is pretty awesome. I predict that it is going to take off and dominate the VPN market eventually..... Steve Greenberg Thin Client Computing 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453 Scottsdale, AZ 85262 (602) 432-8649 (602) 296-0411 fax steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Kenzig Kenzig.com Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 5:16 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Thinnews Subject: [THIN] Citrix releases SSL VPN Appliance http://www.brianmadden.com/content/content.asp?id=303 <http://www.brianmadden.com/content/content.asp?id=303> and http://www.citrix.com/site/PS/products/product.asp?familyID=%2013991 <http://www.citrix.com/site/PS/products/product.asp?familyID=%2013991&produc tID=15005> &productID=15005 Jim Kenzig http://thin.net <http://thin.net> ============================================================================ == This message is for the sole use of the intended recipient. 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