I have Application Vantage, this won't work if you are trying to get "end-user experience" outside the firewall. Works great on the internal network _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carl Stalhood Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 3:28 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix end-user performance monitoring CompuWare has a comprehensive line of performance monitoring and profiling products called Vantage. CompuWare Application Vantage includes the ability to baseline an app's performance and then allow you to select various performance characteristics like bandwidth and latency and it will tell you what kind of response you can expect. It can even loop through the parameters and tell you how much bandwidth is required for maximum performance without wasting money on too large of a circuit. _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob Slayden Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 11:48 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Citrix end-user performance monitoring Happy Friday! We have been tasked with selecting and deploying software that will enable us to monitor the end-user experience. We are about to make some major changes to our primary application that is delivered to the users over Citrix and we want to establish both the application performance baseline and the end-user experience. We are currently looking at NGC Chroniker and Symantec i3. Does anyone have any experience good or bad with either of these products? What about recommendations for others? Thanks! rob