Nope. Old is once knowing how to reconfigure CPM for different floppy disk drives. ;-) Regards, Rick Ulrich Mack Volante Systems 18 Heussler Terrace, Milton 4064=20 Queensland, Australia tel +61 7 32467704 rmack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ThinFan . Sent: Saturday, 22 May 2004 2:57 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix VS Terminal services, what's the difference ? Old is supporting Multimate on OS/2 v1.0 and PROFS for email (moved to Notes=20 1.0 after PROFS) >From: "Claudio Rodrigues" <crodrigues@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Reply-To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix VS Terminal services, what's the difference=20 >? >Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 12:49:57 -0400 > >Oh yes! Even WordPerfect for the Data General machines. :-) >I am old... > >-----Original Message----- >From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On=20 >Behalf Of Lilley, Brian >Sent: May 21, 2004 12:45 PM >To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' >Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix VS Terminal services, what's the difference=20 >? > > >Is there such a product as Wordstar 2000?? Retro man... > >:o) > >-----Original Message----- >From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On >Behalf Of Claudio Rodrigues >Sent: 21 May 2004 17:38 >To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix VS Terminal services, what's the difference? > > >Terminal Services can do load balancing. Windows 2003 has built-in NLB=20 >on Server. 2000 can do with Advanced Server. It is not resource based=20 >though. Depending on the environment (Ron will kill me after this=20 >sentence) you can even use DNS Round Robin - the >cheap-o-matic(tm) solution. >Or use WTSGateway or WTSGateway Pro. >Most people usually say Citrix has everything centralized, enterprise=20 >features bla bla bla. My experience tells me that when you go to BIG=20 >environments, they already have a tool to monitor resources (TNG,=20 >Tivoli, NetIQ, etc) that are 1000 times better than RMS (that is a=20 >piece of crap and like Wordstar 2000 was one of the few products in=20 >history that got 1000 worse on version 2.0 than on 1.0). For deploying=20 >apps and so on these places use something like Altiris, SMS etc, again, >much better than IMS on Citrix. So at the end these big corporations=20 >pay for MetaFrame Xpe but at the end they would need Xpa only. So I=20 >tend to disagree Citrix has all the corporate things built-in. It has=20 >if you are a cheapo corporation. If you are really after the top stuff=20 >you will never use RMS/IMS. >Can TS do everything like Citrix? Well depends on the environment. For >small companies, for sure. For medium, it depends. That is why people >like me, Ron and Brian have a job. :-) > > >-----Original Message----- >From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On=20 >Behalf Of John Van Gerpen >Sent: May 20, 2004 5:32 PM >To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' >Subject: [THIN] Citrix VS Terminal services, what's the=20 >difference?=3D3D20 > > >I administrate Windows 2000 network and Citrix Medaframe XP. Looking=20 >at CO$T$ and maintenance associated with Citrix I'm considering=20 >scrapping Citrix and going with a Terminal services RDP environment.=20 >All my clients are WinXP and Wyse terminals (RDP). The only down side=20 >I know is the load >balancing Citrix can do, and Terminal services cannot. 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