[THIN] Re: Citrix VS Terminal services, what's the difference?

  • From: "Tasita Ebacher" <tebacher@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 14:12:20 -0500

I have XPa....

Really, round robin's been working for what I do, but if I figure out how to
get Citrix's load balancing to work I'd love to do it.

"Round robin for a connection name or what?" - Quoted from Ron

I have it setup so users connect to "citrix" and have round robin enabled
with 2 entries in DNS for "citrix" pointing to each of my servers IP's. 

I wasn't taught much on Load balancing, except that is "just works" in most
cases.  Which, it doesn't for my situation.

Tasita Ebacher
702 Communications
Data Systems Engineer
CCNA


-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Claudio Rodrigues
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 2:03 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix VS Terminal services, what's the difference? 

Which MetaFrame do you have? XPs?

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Tasita Ebacher
Sent: May 21, 2004 3:00 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix VS Terminal services, what's the difference?=20


That's the thing, I do have XPa with the ability to do Load Balancing...
I
guess I'm not using it, huh?

Tasita Ebacher
702 Communications
Data Systems Engineer
CCNA


-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Minero Hector B DLVA
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 1:51 PM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix VS Terminal services, what's the difference?=20

If you are happy with DNS round robin, then stay with it.
If you are ever running a much larger farm, then you should consider getting
MetaFrame XPa or Microsoft Load Balancing.



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-----Original Message-----
From: Tasita Ebacher [mailto:tebacher@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 2:27 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix VS Terminal services, what's the difference?=20


Ummm, Ok, I am going to admit my ignorance on this subject!

I attended a Citrix training class, and was taught to use Round Robin DNS,
so I did.

I have 2 servers that get connections from around 10 users who just connect
to a desktop.  Round Robin DNS directs the users connecting between the
2
servers.

Is there a better way to do this?  You make Round Robin DNS sound so
barbaric that I would assume there is a better way!=20


Tasita Ebacher
702 Communications
Data Systems Engineer
CCNA


-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Claudio Rodrigues
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 12:03 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix VS Terminal services, what's the difference?=20

Everyone does DNS Round Robin. They are just shy to admit in public what
they did. :-)


-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Ron Oglesby
Sent: May 21, 2004 12:52 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix VS Terminal services, what's the difference?=3D20


Ok, c'mon Claudio. DNS round robin!!!!!!

LOL. Just had to do that.

Ron Oglesby
Senior Technical Architect
Microsoft MVP - Windows Server
=3D20
RapidApp, Chicago
Mobile 815 325-7618
Office 312 372-7188
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-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Claudio Rodrigues
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 11:38 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix VS Terminal services, what's the difference?=3D20

Terminal Services can do load balancing. Windows 2003 has built-in NLB on
Server. 2000 can do with Advanced Server.
It is not resource based though. Depending on the environment (Ron will kill
me after this sentence) you can even use DNS Round Robin - the
cheap-o-matic(tm) solution.
Or use WTSGateway or WTSGateway Pro.
Most people usually say Citrix has everything centralized, enterprise
features bla bla bla.
My experience tells me that when you go to BIG environments, they already
have a tool to monitor resources (TNG, Tivoli, NetIQ, etc) that are 1000
times better than RMS (that is a piece of crap and like Wordstar 2000 was
one of the few products in history that got 1000 worse on version 2.0 than
on 1.0). For deploying apps and so on these places use something like
Altiris, SMS etc, again, much better than IMS on Citrix. So at the end these
big corporations pay for MetaFrame Xpe but at the end they would need Xpa
only. So I tend to disagree Citrix has all the corporate things built-in. It
has if you are a cheapo corporation. If you are really after the top stuff
you will never use RMS/IMS.
Can TS do everything like Citrix? Well depends on the environment. For small
companies, for sure. For medium, it depends. That is why people like me, Ron
and Brian have a job. :-)


-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of John Van Gerpen
Sent: May 20, 2004 5:32 PM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Citrix VS Terminal services, what's the = difference?=3D3D20


I administrate Windows 2000 network and Citrix Medaframe XP.  Looking at
CO$T$ and maintenance associated with Citrix I'm considering scrapping
Citrix and going with a Terminal services RDP environment. All my clients
are WinXP and Wyse terminals (RDP).  The only down side I know is the load
balancing Citrix can do, and Terminal services cannot.   What do you
think
the advantages and disadvantages are between RDP & ICA?=3D3D20 Is = Terminal
services as functional as Citrix?

Thanks in advance
 John.
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