This sounds like the Windows 2000 SP4 issue, as it changed the method of login - there was a hotfix released by Microsoft to fix the problem. It's do with CMSTART taking ages to run The fix is Q824309 - it was a private fix - not sure if it was ever made public - mail me off-list if you need a copy regards, Phil _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Matt Barys Sent: 01 April 2005 19:10 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Citrix Metaframe 1.8 problems Hi everyone. I've got a real nagging problem at hand and it is really making my users mad. It seems that the system will slow down to a halt and then progressively pick up again. They'll flip through the screen like Word, Excel, other apps and it will take five minutes to bring up that screen again. Another problem is when they try to save or open something out of Word or Excel, it will just sit there for a minute before finally coming up. Any ideas on when this might be? When this is happening, I'll do task manager and everything looks great, low memory usage and very little cpu. Here's our setup. BTW, it happens on all three servers. Windows 2000 SP4 Metaframe 1.8 SP4 Office XP SP3 4 Gig Ram, Dual P4 2.8 Xeons Thanks! Matt Barys