I think 4.5 uses a new java tool, which replaces the CMC. Check your start menu for the Access Management Suite Console. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jay Schaefer To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 11:24 AM Subject: [THIN] Citrix Access Management Console error - MMC crashes Doing my upgrade from CPS 4.0 to 4.5 and when running Citrix Access Management Console (after the discovery successfully finishes) it runs for about 10 seconds and then the MMC crashes. " Microsoft Management Console has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience." Found the following document but solution does not work:http://support.citrix.com/forums/thread.jspa?forumID=105&threadID=78589&tstart=0 This is happening on the 3 servers with CPS 4.5. I can't run any applications on these servers either. Anyone see this before? Thanks - Jay