That's right. You're making it way easier for people to find your Citrix servers if you're not using CSG.=20 -----Original Message----- From: Ron Oglesby [mailto:roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx]=20 Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 1:06 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: CSG really necessary? That's not what CSG does. It really hides your metaframe servers from the internet, no public IP needed. Right now if I watch your 1494 traffic or know your IP I can use a PN client to get to your MF server and just try (or steal) a user name a password. CSG makes the user use nfuse and if you want force a RSA login also. On top of that is the SSL piece that is a bonus to allow ICA traffic to get through most firewalls. Ron Ron Oglesby Senior Technical Architect =3D20 RapidApp Office 312.372.7188 Mobile 815.325.7618 email roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx =3D20 -----Original Message----- From: Scott Reichardt [mailto:sreichardt@xxxxxxx]=3D20 Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 1:05 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] CSG really necessary? Im using MF XP 1.0. If I have NFUSE 1.7 running on a DMZ using SSL encryption and everyone connecting to the published apps using secureica RC5 128 bit encryption, is a Citrix Secure Gateway really necessary? I'd rather not have to dedicate another box for a CSG if everything is already getting encrypted. ******************************************************** This Week's Sponsor - Emergent Online EOL's Universal Printer new Features include: Network Printing, Pagestreaming, 2400 DPI. No Client Software Required! http://www.go-eol.com/ ********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or=3D20 set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm ******************************************************** This Week's Sponsor - Emergent Online EOL's Universal Printer new Features include: Network Printing, Pagestreaming, 2400 DPI. No Client Software Required! http://www.go-eol.com/ ********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or=20 set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm ******************************************************** This Week's Sponsor - Emergent Online EOL's Universal Printer new Features include: Network Printing, Pagestreaming, 2400 DPI. No Client Software Required! http://www.go-eol.com/ ********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm