[THIN] Re: CE thins and nFuse
- From: "Ron Oglesby" <roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 11:59:32 -0500
Well then you get no taskbar since CE is basically useless for what you
are looking for.
CE is really only good to connect to a desktop or a single published
application (that could be NFuse etc) and that's all.
Ron Oglesby
Senior Technical Architect
RapidApp
Office 312.372.7188
Mobile 815.325.7618
email roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: Higgins, Bob [mailto:BHiggins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 11:16 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: CE thins and nFuse
just to add, the taskbar I'm refering to is on the local device.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: Higgins, Bob [mailto:BHiggins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: September 23, 2003 9:47 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: CE thins and nFuse
Thanks Ron,
If you don't give the users a taskbar, how do you allow them to
switch between applications? The environment we built with w2k was very
tight, all that could run was iexplorer, and then the published apps.
The device auto logs on with a useless local account and launches
iexplore to the nfuse site, and could go nowhere else. Iexplore can not
be closed. The user can do nothing other than log onto the nfuse site,
or turn off the device. The start button is gone, ctrl-alt-del disabled,
all windows shortcuts disabled, but we left the taskbar to allow app
switching. Am I missing a way to do this without the taskbar? Alt-tab is
is not an option for our users. If we can recreate this environment on a
CE device, then life is good. :)
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Oglesby [mailto:roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: September 23, 2003 9:24 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: CE thins and nFuse
I have done this (but not for a thousand users) I am
also planning one right now for about 600 or so to access this way.
Any. The concept with NFuse is simple. Have the CE
client launch to anonymous NFuse (published IE). Then the users can sign
into that and launch applications.
Alternatively you can have a STRIPPED down desktop with
a taskbar. From within the desktop they can use NFuse. BUT I have found
that often times it is better to give users the ability to run all the
apps right from that desktop (even using the passthrough client to
launch apps from other silos)
But to address your individual questions:
Is it possible to achieve a user bombproof environment
with nFuse (Web Interface) on CE devices and still maintain the taskbar?
Maintaining a taskbar mean giving them a desktop (even
if stripped) Bomb proof would mean mandatory profiles with maybe a flex
or hybrid mixed in. That is about as close to bomb proof as you can get.
BUT any desktop is a hole, never forget that.
What are the pitfalls of CE devices, other than the
inability to have any local apps?.
Not anything you would want to run.... And generally
these devices don't have enough CE to do anything other than connect to
a server.
How was your experience with implementation?
Been good in most cases. I don't like giving the user a
desktop if I don't have to. If I do I give them mandatory profiles. If
they gripe about saving settings I then add in the flex or hybrid
profile kit so the admins determine what is saved and not the user.
How do users like the environment?
Just fine once they get done gripping. You have to find
a balance between giving them anything they want and not giving them
anything. I found that these are easiest when moving them from older
slower machines.
Any other comments?
Not now.
Ron Oglesby
Senior Technical Architect
RapidApp
Office 312.372.7188
Mobile 815.325.7618
email roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: Higgins, Bob [mailto:BHiggins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 9:44 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] CE thins and nFuse
Hi All,
We are looking for feedback from larger environments
(1000+ devices) that have done nFuse on CE for their core application
delivery. We have achieved a satisfactory, end user secured environment
on a stripped down w2k shell on PC's, but it took some add ins (PWB,
etc.) to achieve the lock down we desired, but still maintain the
necessary functionality (taskbar, etc.).
Is it possible to achieve a user bombproof environment
with nFuse (Web Interface) on CE devices and still maintain the taskbar?
What are the pitfalls of CE devices, other than the
inability to have any local apps?.
How was your experience with implementation?
How do users like the environment?
Any other comments?
Your feedback is appreciated!
Bob Higgins, MCSE
Information Systems Server Administrator
Chinook Health Region
960 19th Street South
Lethbridge, Alberta
T1J 1W5
www.chr.ab.ca
Phone: (403) 382-6338
Fax: (403) 382 6046
E-mail: bhiggins@xxxxxxxxx
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