[THIN] Re: CAG as a VM
- From: "George Wasgatt" <gwasgatt@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 15:26:38 -0400
OK, I'll bite - what's a VMware DRS "feature" bug?
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of msemon@xxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 2:56 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: CAG as a VM
Yes, and VMware issues can bite harder. Anyone that has dealt with the
VMware DRS
"feature" (bug) knows what I am talking about:)
Original Message:
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From: Steve Greenberg steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 09:03:05 -0700
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: CAG as a VM
Ah, so "citrix" is not the only bad word in some companies, "vmware" is
also! :-)
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85266
(602) 432-8649
www.thinclient.net
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Mike Semon
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 3:26 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: CAG as a VM
Hi Rick,
I agree with your justification to run a CAG as a VM. The redundancy and DR
issues should be a more important consideration. The CAG is
just a low end server, nothing special. The challenge is to sell the
solution to management. The cost of a standard CAG to them is insignificant.
The problem is they got bitten on a few VMware issues before I came onboard.
So they are being cautious on implementing virtual solutions.
They are new to the virtualization arena.
Mike
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Rick Mack
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 4:42 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: CAG as a VM
Hi Mike,
Use a virtual CAG and you've just solved your redundancy and DR issues. But
I'd have to ask whether you mean the standard CAG is actually supported?
Suuport so you can do do a return to base fix after getting an RA through
your reseller when the hardware fails. The likehood of Citrix actually
fixing problems on the CAG is historically kind of low. It's a Supermicro
rack mount PC with a Citrix front plate. How much is the front plate worth?
The CAG is an end-of-life piece of equipment who's only claim to fame is
that it's less expensive than it's replacement, though being built on linux
it is technically more secure than an IIS server. It's not particularly well
locked down, it's not at all optimized or stripped down, and Citrix have
done very little to actually develop it any further beyond just fixing
severe bugs or providing minimal enhancements.
Reliability, redundancy, DR vs minimal support. Are you sure you can't sell
that to management?
regards,
Rick
--
Ulrich Mack
Quest Software
Provision Networks Division
On 5/14/08, Mike Semon <msemon@xxxxxxx> wrote:
It may work great, unfortunately it is not supported by Citrix. I can't
implement something unsupported.
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