[THIN] Re: CAG Licenses Required for CSG Replacement
- From: "Steve Greenberg" <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 10:23:16 -0700
This is very common, we are seeing a lot of Citrix PS shops adoption CAG for
their VPN. Turns out that CAG pretty much beats all the competitors in the
SSL VPN arena hands down....
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
(602) 296-0411 fax
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Hutchinson, Alan
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:55 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: CAG Licenses Required for CSG Replacement
Ditto - we already have one too, but are looking at this as well for its
ability to restrict applications depending on device type/locattion etc. and
apparent ease of use for the luser.
Regards,
Alan.
P.S. Anyone got their hands on a 4.2 box yet - we've been told 23rd November
for the U.K. - any sign of any manuals?
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Schneider, Chad M
Sent: 10 November 2005 16:45
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: CAG Licenses Required for CSG Replacement
We also already have a VPN solution, free (Cisco), but are evaluating this
CAG, due to it's ease of use, configuration, ease for the end user, etc.
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Jeff Durbin
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 10:19 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: CAG Licenses Required for CSG Replacement
Good point about concurrent licensing; I'd have to look at how many
concurrent users we have externally at a given time. But regardless of the
number, I'm not paying for VPN licenses to get CSG functionality. It's a
bummer because I really like the VPN functionality, but other VPN
technologies are on the table at my company. It would have been a great way
to let some users start validating the VPN functionality, which *could* have
ultimately been a huge VPN win for Citrix.
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Schneider, Chad M
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:31 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: CAG Licenses Required for CSG Replacement
Hardware is $2495, list price, a good vendor can cut that some.
We are looking to buy 2, for load balance/redundancy.
We have thousands of VPN users, but only see @ 100-150 concurrent at peak
times.
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Steve Greenberg
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 10:17 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: CAG Licenses Required for CSG Replacement
That is a fair point, if they gave away the CSG functionality for the price
of the hardware there would be a lot of shops that would be happy to move to
the new platform. These users could then become VPN users in the future-
point well taken.......
BTW, the hardsware is $2495 and the licenses are concurrent so I doubt you
would need 3500 licenses!
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
(602) 296-0411 fax
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Jeff Durbin
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 6:43 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: CAG Licenses Required for CSG Replacement
That's pretty crappy. I'm still paying $3,000 for the appliance, to replace
a Windows server that's running free software. I have 3500 users with access
via the CSG, and obviously, there's no way I'm paying $350,000 to replace
our CSG's. Too bad for Citrix, as they could potentially have gotten a
foothold in our VPN space via the CSG replacement.
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Steve Greenberg
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:04 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: CAG Licenses Required for CSG Replacement
Yes it does require licenses. It is a replacement, but not a free
replacement. Once the user connects you can configure whether you give them
a full VPN tunnel, hand off to WI (CSG), or kiosk mode. Any combination of
these features requires a CAG concurrent license. The good news is that box
performs extremely well, is wel integrated with all the CTX products. The
even better news is that it is a hardened LINUX OS and not Windows
pretending to be a security device!
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
(602) 296-0411 fax
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of techlists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:49 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] CAG Licenses Required for CSG Replacement
In addition to being a SSL VPN, the CAG is being positioned as a replacement
for CSG. Does anyone know if the CSG functionality requires a CAG license?
Thanks,
JD
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