[THIN] Re: Business case, Healthcare facilities
- From: "Ron Oglesby" <roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 11:00:11 -0500
I have done 3 hospital implementations in the last 9 or so months. Here
is what I saw Server/user wise
Hospital 1 running a SNA gateway app called desktop 7000 and office
apps. Dual proc 2gb server getting about 30-active connections per. Of
course nursing stations aren't busy half the time so they run this up to
abou 60 total session per box.
Hospital 2 running Epic. Again duals with 2gb. Getting about 35-40 per
box.
Hospital 3, Running Cerner Power chart with every option you can have.
Power Chart is FAT in Mem usage and heavy on the proc side in several
sub apps. We think we could take these server to about 20 or so active
users. BUT they keep so many servers online it runs at about 12 users
per box.
The other thing you have to look at is how active your medical staff is.
You may have 1500 clients spread around in patient rooms, common work
areas etc, But what percentage is in use at once. Most hospitals this is
abou 2 to 1. but not always.
Ron Oglesby
Senior Technical Architect
RapidApp
Office 312.372.7188
Mobile 815.325.7618
email roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: Higgins, Bob [mailto:BHiggins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 10:32 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Business case, Healthcare facilities
Hi Ron,
Yes, it is alot to ask... really just looking for a high level view
right now, and some direction on the number of Citrix licenses and
servers that we would require for our 1500 client devices. We have
built the environment in test, and are trying to put the case together
for the brass. I appreciate the offer of your TCO paper, that would be
great to have.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Oglesby [mailto:roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: August 19, 2003 9:15 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Business case, Healthcare facilities
Wow, Bob, that sounds like a white paper to me. And of course
all that info is variable. Meditech is one app, but lots of hospitals
run Epic Hyperspace, or Power Chart from Cerner etc. Meditech is also a
little different depending on the version you run.
Any I am sure there is a TCO white paper out there that would
get close to what you are looking for, WE did one about deplying apps in
different ways in hospitals of different sizes and some of the benefits
and draw backs of different deployment mechanisms.
Shoot me a mail if you want a copy of that.
Ron Oglesby
Senior Technical Architect
RapidApp
Office 312.372.7188
Mobile 815.325.7618
email roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: Higgins, Bob [mailto:BHiggins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 9:53 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Business case, Healthcare facilities
Hello,
We would be interested in hearing from anyone in a healthcare or
similar facility that has gone to a primarily Citrix/Terminal
Services/thin client environment for the delivery of ALL I.T. products
(Meditech as well as MS Office, etc.)
How has it impacted your users' workflow?
What impact has it had on your T.C.O.?
What effect has it had on the level of support you can provide
your users?
How often do you need to provide one-off alternatives for
products that are not TS friendly?
What is your ratio of concurrent use for licensing?
What is your ratio of concurrent users to metaframe or TS
servers?
What would you have done differently?
All feedback is appreciated, thanks.
Bob Higgins, MCSE
Information Systems Server Administrator
Chinook Health Region
960 19th Street South
Lethbridge, Alberta
T1J 1W5
www.chr.ab.ca
Phone: (403) 382-6338
Fax: (403) 382 6046
E-mail: bhiggins@xxxxxxxxx
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