Please let us know how it turns out, especially the upgrade part. Our NT Systems group is balking at upgrading to BES 4.0 until after the Exchange 2003 upgrade is complete. Unfortunately, that will not happen until late Q1, early Q2. Also anxious to know how well the wireless sync of contacts goes. Thanks, rob _____ From: Chris Grecsek [mailto:grecsek@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 3:02 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Blackberry PDAs over Citrix Just ordered BES 4.0 today. If it delivers on what it says, it will do everything wirelessly and we won't need cradles any longer. COM/USB redirection no more. Ahhhh. _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob Slayden Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 5:20 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Blackberry PDAs over Citrix We use BES for Exchange as well and it works great for wireless email and calendar sync, but it does not currently support task and contacts sync wirelessly, at least not until 4.0 is deployed. Are you using BES 4.0 or do your users not need to keep contacts in sync with Outlook? Thanks, rob _____ From: Chris Grecsek [mailto:grecsek@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 2:48 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Blackberry PDAs over Citrix We use Blackberry's Enterprise server for Exchange and thus don't need to do local syncing with the Blackberries. It works wonderfully for us and well worth the expense to get rid of having to support USB syncing. We're getting rid of all the various PDAs and moving everyone to Blackberries. _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jay Moock Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 5:21 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Blackberry PDAs over Citrix I tested a blackberry with USB-IT and it worked, however at the time of my testing USB-IT could only be installed on a Thick Client, or a WinTerm running XPe. They plan to support WinCE sometime next year. After installing USB-IT on my test server it became somewhat unstable (the screen would freeze and then explorer.exe would crash). However, my test box is quite underpowered so that may have something to do with it. Jay _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob Slayden Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 6:43 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Blackberry PDAs over Citrix Low-level port redirection over USB, the kind presumably required by PDAs for synchronization, is not supported over Citrix MetaFrame according to Knowledgebase document CTX816193. I was hoping to hear from the field that one or more have it working and it's great over COM ports, or using USB-IT, or it's not working very well at all and we should can the plan to deploy BBs. We are in the early stages of technology recommendation for this group of users. I don't have a problem recommending BBs if they can function in the field over our existing infrastructure, but if they do not play well over what we have in place, I would rather seek a better solution for these users. rob _____ From: Jim Kenzig kenzig.com [mailto:jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 1:58 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Blackberry PDAs over Citrix I would think that if your thin clients IOS and version of Citrix support USB that it should work. The syncing is working on the server end via a db. JAK Rob Slayden rote: We are considering the possibility of deploying Blackberry PDAs to some of our field. These users would need to be able to sync periodically from a desktop pub app on a Wyse WBT. I realize that USB synchronization is not supported with the standard product (Citrix), and that COM port sync might be a viable option. I also took a peek at the EOL USB-IT product and am waiting on a callback to determine if it is supported on a thin client WBT or if it requires a fat client. I also realize that the B.E.S 4.0 update supports wireless sync of all PDA functions and not just Calendar and email. That being said, I am curious to know if anyone has deployed Blackberry PDAs successfully and is sync'ing over WBTs and Citrix over COM ports and/or USB using USB-IT or any other products. There seemed to be some indication in the archives that some were expe riencing problems with COM port synchronization. I know that there was a timeout issue with client version 7.1 previously. Also, we may not be able to implement an upgrade to B.E.S 4.0 soon due to the necessity to tread carefully there because we have our entire executive staff and IT depending upon it. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Rob 24 Hour Fitness, Inc.