[THIN] Re: Betr.: NDS Pass Through
- From: "Joe Shonk" <JShonk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 08:55:33 -0700
It's not recommend to chains domains, it's generally better to have 1 =
Domain, and split up or org into multiple OUs.
There are two problems with you statement "...if you have administrators =
who are worth their pay NDS" One, it is difficult to find anyone who =
knows Novell products, let alone has mastered them. Second, most of my =
clients can't afford to pay large salaries. Thus the new saying in the =
industry.. "We have to do more with less.."
Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: Schneider, Samuel M. Mr (Contractor) UHD
[mailto:Samuel.Schneider@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 8:49 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Betr.: NDS Pass Through
Well, As an early adopter you should know that a directory (ummm excsuse
me) a set of domains chained by transitive trust is not a directory.
It's just like the old M$ training for NT4 where M$ Drill and Drills
that Domains are directories. Bull-hockey. They wish to compete on the
same level as NDS but only provides updates to existing legacy
infrastructures. Wheeew!!!! ok. Now let me state this I am not a
detractor, I was involved in a significant (early release of AD.. 1700 +
rollout) Tools and application methods were not sound ( especially in
the Messaging arena). Joe shonks comment about administering nds is
incorrect if you have administrators who are worth their pay NDS is much
easier and methodical to administer than AD is... that is until you have
rebuild your forest to incorporate new versions. :)
I don't disagree that AD is quite an improvement over domains... But
strongly disagree with comments recommending that AD is even close to
the same caliber of NDS from a directory perspective.
Nuff said
-----Original Message-----
From: Braebaum, Neil [mailto:neil.braebaum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 11:34 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Betr.: NDS Pass Through
In what way?
Sure - NDS works and operates slightly differently, than AD.
But I'm far from convinced there are true, meaningful ommisions in AD,
that
are present elsewhere, that aren't mere cludges or workarounds to other
ommisions.
I've been using AD for quite a while now (was probably what was
considered
as early adopters) as a directory repository, and have written various
amounts of ADSI code to leverage it.
Whilst not perfect (is anything?), I'd suggest it's far from what it's
detractors would like to claim.
Neil
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Schneider, Samuel M. Mr (Contractor) UHD=20
> [mailto:Samuel.Schneider@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
> Sent: 18 October 2002 16:27
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Betr.: NDS Pass Through
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> Yeah they all fall for the promise and lure of M$-AD what a crock!
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> NDS is what M$ aspires Ad to be... they have a long bumpy road ahead.
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