I stand corrected, I was told directly from a Microsoft Tech during a call (and an email) that this would NOT be resolved by any hotfixes because the breadth of the issue is/was just to big. His email is from two months ago. I will forward this to him and ask about it. SEG -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carl Stalhood Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 9:20 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Axys I assume this is the problem you were describing? http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;272582 Windows 2000 Terminal Services Incorrectly Closes Files on Remote Shares SYMPTOMS You may receive one or more of the following error messages when multiple users on a Terminal Server work with the same files that are located on a network share: Disk or Network Error STATUS_UNEXPECTED_NETWORK_ERROR (0xc00000c4) ERROR_UNEXP_NET_ERR (error 59 in decimal or 0x3b in hexadecimal) STATUS_CONNECTION_DISCONNECTED (0xc000020c) ERROR_NETNAME_DELETED (error 64 in decimal or 0x40 in hexadecimal) CAUSE This problem can be caused when the user that first opened the shared file logs off. The Terminal Server incorrectly closes the file handles that it has open to the remote file, so any other programs that had the file open are no longer able to access the file. Note that this problem does not occur if the data files are moved to a local volume on the Terminal Server. This also fixes the "disk or network error" when running Access databases that link to other Access databases on network drives. There is a link to the hotfix in this article. It is also fixed in SP3 for Windows 2000. Carl Stalhood Choice Solutions -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scot Gabriel Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 1:41 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Axys As soon as you said the data is on another system I flenched. 5 to 1 says this is your problem (specific to Win2k): This problem occurs because the network redirector only creates one file control block (FCB) for all user connections so that when the first user to open the files logs off, the other users lose their connections to files. This problem usually occurs in database programs where the data and/or program files reside on a network drive. The solution to this problem was determined to be too large of an architectural change to implement as a hot fix for Windows 2000 and there is currently no hot fix available. I expect you will have to move the database local to the Citrix server and make sure you use the local drive letter to access it or move back to NT 4.0 TSE with MF1.8. -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John C. Stuhlmiller Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 1:41 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Axys Some of you fine people said that you run Axys from advent On Citrix I am trying to run it via Metaframe 1.8 on a windows 2000 box and I am having issues Where it will run for a while and then stop working I reinstall the client and it works again for a while Weird stuff So I loaded the network version on the Citrix server and I am trying to run the program off of the local Citrix server And point to the data on another server Advents support is not very good I see something about a extra data bit etc on their website but not to much Any suggestions? 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