I've been so busy; I did not explain that very well! Bruce your answer did help some even with my poor explanation! Most of users are using thin clients and only running applications on terminal servers/Metaframe. We want to setup forced caching on the file servers shares. Our mobile users have both Local apps and Terminal access. We are testing it right now, and it seems to work. Thanks for the help, -Eric S. Perkins "performance is our passion" esp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Headquarters: 847.647.2430 Visit us Online: http://performance.ws ________________________________________ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bruce Jarrett-Norton Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 10:29 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Automatic Caching What we had to do was give the Notebooks users local apps for the MS products but they still need to connect to the farm / citrix for any others that are only published via citirx. For those users we created a j: drive that was mapped to their main folder on our file server, which is not a citrix server, and have that folder synced. We set the security level on that folder for automatically caching of the documents. Then we go 1 further for them, since most are executives and moving between drive letters seems to be difficult, we map their My Documents folder locally to that j: drive. Now all their MS programs that default to the My Documents go to this synched drive and will be synched when the log onto and off the network. One major thing is to look at how the synch is setup. If the user only dials in some of the time you might want to set the synch to prompt so that they can decided if they want to update or not through the dial in. I also set the synch to work after 30 min of no-activity while on the network. This is so that if they go to lunch it will synch their folder with the new information since they logged in and hopefully take less time when they shutdown. Another thing is that we setup a group templates folder for our individual divisions and for the corporate structure. We applied securities to these folders and have our notebook users set up with the p: drive to synch this folder and use these for the workgroup templates. What is great about this is that the security on the folders are kept and the users can only see what they have access to. Hope this helps, Bruce Jarrett-Norton Dart Energy Corporation Desktop and Network Support Tech. e-mail: bjarrett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx | -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Shonk Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 11:14 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Automatic Caching If you're talking about the offline file cache for server shares, then NO. The Terminal/Citrix Server generally resides in the same data center as where the other backend servers it touches. As for the laptop users, they will need to use the ICA/RDP client to connect the TS or MF farm. The will not be able to use the farm offline. Joe -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eric S. Perkins Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 5:00 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Automatic Caching Anyone... Or does everyone shy away from this feature in 2000/2003 -Eric ________________________________________ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eric S. Perkins Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 06:35 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Automatic Caching Happy New Year! When using the automatic caching features for document shares on windows 2000 file servers, does a Metaframe/Terminal server hold cached shares machine wide or per user? We want to implement these features server wide for our mobile users, which may or may not have remote access where they are traveling. It would be a lot easier then configuring all laptops individually. We were concerned about disk space issues on the Metaframe servers; does it have any benefit for the Metaframe server? -Eric S. Perkins ________________________________ Performance Network Solutions <http://www.performance.ws> : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 12/28/2003 Tested on: 12/30/2003 6:34:30 AM ******************************************************** This Week's Sponsor - Chip PC - The Next Step in Thin Client Technology. 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