I think I may have just found the problem. I upgraded the Citrix ICA Client from 7.1 to 9.0 and it printed much much faster (less then 1 minute for 13 pages). This was even faster then using direct IP printing as it should be because the ICA session compresses the print data over the WAN link. Matthew Shrewsbury, MCSE+Internet MCSE 2000 CCA Server+ Senior Network Administrator -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Matthew Shrewsbury Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 8:59 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Auto created printers are printing much slower! When I use Auto Created client printers (e.g. when we the user logs on the printer is created in Citrix (Client\CompName\Printername) the print job prints very slow. However if I create the printer manually on the Citrix server pointed to the printers IP address the job then prints much faster. The odd thing is I would think that the Auto Created printer would be faster because the print job is sent inside the ICA session and is compressed. So over a WAN link (as in this case) I would have thought it would be faster. About two or so weeks ago it was working just fine before I applied Citrix SP4 and W2K SP4 Rollup 1 and other security updates. Any ideas? Does Citrix XPA SP4 change the way Auto Created printers print? Are there any tweaks I can do to speed up the printing within ICA channel? I'm really in a bind to get this working and I don't want to tear my server apart removing patches when I don't know what patch is the problem. Matthew Shrewsbury, MCSE+Internet MCSE 2000 CCA Server+ Senior Network Administrator -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Schneider, Chad M Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 8:37 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Auto created printers are printing much slower! Are you setting it as client created printers, or set to print directly to network printer? _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Matthew Shrewsbury Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 3:45 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Auto created printers are printing much slower! Importance: High I've found that auto created printers are printing very slowly over wan links. We use mostly network printers but all the users at remote sites have auto created printers. If I create a printer on the Citrix server and point to it with TCP/IP printing it prints much faster 2-3 minutes vs 10+ minutes using auto created printers for the same print job. Users are reporting that this is new and started about two weeks ago. Around that time frame the only change I made was to upgrade Citrix XPA FR3/SP3 to SP4 and apply Win2K SP4 Rollup 1. Any idea how I can get my auto created printer to print faster again? Matthew Shrewsbury, MCSE+Internet MCSE 2000 CCA Server+ Senior Network Administrator