[THIN] Re: About to test out Threadmaster on our new app that hogs the CPU in our test lab first
- From: "Steve Greenberg" <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 11:00:46 -0700
I totally agree, the full version of ArmTech is an excellent product and the
features and things everyone would want in an SBC envirnoment. Also the new
reporting/managment engine they have is stellar..
Steve Greenberg
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Jim Kenzig http://ThinHelp.com
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 10:21 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: About to test out Threadmaster on our new app that hogs
the CPU in our test lab first
Agreed. I keep the memory stuff turned off on our environment and leave the
cpu on for that reason. I was just basically saying in not so many
words...if you every played with the full version of Aurema (or RTO for that
matter)versus what you get with CPS 4 it is like night and day. You really
are not getting the full and true benefit of the products.
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----- Original Message ----
From: Steve Greenberg <steveg@>
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 12:32:50 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: About to test out Threadmaster on our new app that hogs
the CPU in our test lab first
However, the Aurema stuff built in to Enteprise Edition assigns a larger
portion to the system processes and then caps users at a CPU max based on
available resources and numbers of users. So, it does not causes issues with
clamping processes you generally don't want clamped, and, it throttle the
user sessions in a reasonable and effective way...
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
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Scottsdale, AZ 85262
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Of Jim Kenzig http://ThinHelp.com
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 10:11 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: About to test out Threadmaster on our new app that hogs
the CPU in our test lab first
I don't see why it wouldn't, as you say it is performing a more granular
functionality. I personally have found you are better just leaving the
optimizations off. The SFO services (RTO memory stuff) runs with every user
login. It slows logins to a crawl. This software was originally written to
be run..have the optimizations applied after it had reviewed the system and
then turned off once it optimizes the dlls. I am not sure how they modified
it to work with Citrix. The Aurema stuff is closer to what threadmaster
does but without the console and ability to control what is going on it is
pretty much useless...it is either on or off and you can't really get out of
it what you want. I still think that if you need these types of apps in
the first place you should start looking at your applications and get your
vendor or programmer to fix what is wrong with them. (I know legacy
apps..blah blah blah. )
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----- Original Message ----
From: Evan Mann <emann@>
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 12:01:14 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: About to test out Threadmaster on our new app that hogs
the CPU in our test lab first
CPU optimizations are off by default in PS4 (at least in a clean install).
My guess is a bunch of people don't even turn it on. I know there has been
alot of reports of issues with the memory optmizations from posters to this
list, and I think I recalled 1 or 2 people with problesm with the CPU
management as well.
Threadmaster is a pretty basic app when it comes down to it. Watch for CPU
to exceed a certain threshold and then throttle it. It could probably run
fine with the PS4 management.
Evan
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Joe Shonk
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 11:50 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: About to test out Threadmaster on our new app that hogs
the CPU in our test lab first
So give up a solid, industry leading work load manager for something that
does just thread reprioritization? Why?
Joe
On 2/27/06, Evan Mann <emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Just don't enable the CPU optimization in Citrix.
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Shonk
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 11:15 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: About to test out Threadmaster on our new app that hogs
the CPU in our test lab first
Wouldn't using Threadmaster on PS4 Enterprise be like trying to run McAfee
and Symantec AV on the same box?
Joe
On 2/27/06, Jim Kenzig http://ThinHelp.com <http://thinhelp.com/> <
jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
And if you are running CPS 4 would you not want to add the Citrix print
spooler service? CpSvc.exe and the myriad of added CPU utililization if you
are using it, ones like
ctxcpubal.exe
ctxcpusched.exe
ctxcpuusync.exe
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----- Original Message ----
From: Andrew Wood <andrew.wood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 9:54:45 AM
Subject: [THIN] Re: About to test out Threadmaster on our new app that hogs
the CPU in our test lab first
imasrv, srvcntrol, SmaService.exe, xte, ctxxmlss ?
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Parr
Sent: 27 February 2006 14:53
To: ' thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> '
Subject: [THIN] About to test out Threadmaster on our new app that hogs the
CPU in our test lab first
The entries below are included as exceptions to the CPU throttling so that
the system can run unencumbered and you are more or less zeroing in on the
offending app - on a Win2k box would you include any other processes as
exceptions?
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ SYSTEM\ CurrentControlSet\ Services\ ThreadMaster\
Parameters\ Exceptions]
"winlogon.exe"=""
"services.exe"=""
"SPOOLSV.EXE"=""
"termsrv.exe"=""
"svchost.exe"=""
"csrss.exe"=""
"cdmsvc.exe"=""
"dfssvc.exe"=""
"llssrv.exe"=""
"lsass.exe"=""
"msdtc.exe"=""
"mstask.exe"=""
"pnsvc.exe"=""
"smss.exe"=""
"sysdown.exe"=""
"System"=""
"SystemProcess"=""
"winmgmt.exe"=""
"agentsvr.exe"=""
Steve Parr
Metroland Printing, Publishing and Distributing Ltd.
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