[THIN] Re: AW: Re: Windows cannot load your profile. Please increase the registry size and restart the computer.
- From: "Rick Mack" <Rick.Mack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 07:48:23 +1000
Hi Nuno,
Sounds like you're hitting the wall earlier than expected.
Let's go at it in a different way since adjusting the RSL maybe isn't working
as it should.
So accepting that your functional RSL is 130 MB, for whatever reason, the
challenge is how to squeeze more users into the amount of registry you have.
I need some more information before we go ahead.
How big is your average ntuser.dat?
How big is the Software hive?
How many users do you have logged on when you run out of registry?
regards,
Rick
Ulrich Mack
Volante Systems
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Nuno Jose Sequeira
Sent: Wed 27/10/2004 10:35 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: AW: Re: Windows cannot load your profile. Please increase
the registry size and restart the computer.
Rick,
Thanks for the info.
Our client profiles are stored on server connected to Citrix servers through a
Gb/s LAN. It takes about 10-20s for each user profile to load into Citrix
servers....
Our average registry size on Citrix servers is about 130Mb, and the RSL is
256Mb. I don't know which value we should use because we tried everything...
Do you know which settings you should use in the registry of Citrix servers to
tune-up the RSL?
Reading the Microsoft Technotes, the RSL is 80% of PagedPoolSize.
How about setting up like this:
Key:[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control]
Value Name: RegistrySizeLimit
Data Type: REG_DWORD
Data:(0xffffffff = maximum)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\SessionManager\MemoryManagement\
Value name: PagedPoolSize
Data type: REG_DWORD
Radix: Hex
Value data: 0xFFFFFFFF
Setting PagedPoolSize to 0xFFFFFFFF allocates the maximum paged pool in lieu of
other resources to the computer.
And forget the PoolUsageMaximum setting?
Does anyone recomend this? If not what then?
Any ideas?
Thanks.
Nuno
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From: Rick Mack [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rick Mack
Sent: quarta-feira, 27 de Outubro de 2004 13:20
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [THIN] Re: AW: Re: Windows cannot load your profile. Please
increase the registry size and restart the computer.
Nuno,
Forget about the other memory parameters!
Don't change anything but the maximum size of the registry. (as per previous
instructions!) If you don't feel comfortable with 216 MB, make it 150 MB but
make it bigger.
The registry size taken up by each profile is the size if
%userprofile%\ntuser.dat, NOT the file size of the whole profile.
I agree with Rob that the total "file" size of the profiles is too big, logins
must be terribly slow. You should be aiming at a size no bigger than 2-4 MB.
Download a trial copy of Treesize Professional (free version also available)
http://www.jam-software.com/treesize/index.shtml that will let you easily find
out what part of the profile is too big.
regards,
Rick
Ulrich Mack
Volante Systems
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Nuno Jose Sequeira
Sent: Wed 27/10/2004 8:46 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: AW: Re: Windows cannot load your profile. Please increase
the registry size and restart the computer.
Well... the settings that I found were from other guys having this problem and
they just used those settings which are in this Microsoft's Technote:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/312362/EN-US/
The thing is that those settings consume a lot of page swap and the server's
HDD will be working intensively... in fact analyzing the server's Page Swap
from Load Monitor in CMC, it usually gets above 80% of load...
I'll still waiting for some help on this...
Every help or hint would be greatly appreciated!! :)
Thanks!
Regards,
Nuno
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From: Claus, Torben [mailto:Torben.Claus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: quarta-feira, 27 de Outubro de 2004 11:31
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] AW: Re: Windows cannot load your profile. Please increase the
registry size and restart the computer.
Ok - i got no solution - but:
Maybe I'm wrong but the size of your profiles doesn't matter for the Problem
you have.
'Cause the system is telling you that you have to increase the Registry Size...
When you look under HKEY_USERS you will see the current loaded Users and their
Reg-Settings.
And under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\hivelist you can see
which ntuser.dat belongs to the ID...
So the Data in your Profiles doesn't increase the amount of Data in the
Registry - not directly...
We got the same Problem here:
Win2k MF XPa
And we are fighting with this Registry-Size for a while and there is a build in
Registryfile-Size-Limit in Windows2k
- so we can set a higher value, but Windows doesn't recognize it...
130 MB seems to be the Limit here...
Because when the Reg-Size reached 125MB the System is telling the "can't load
Profile...increase Reg-Size"-Shit.
In Windows 2003 this Limit is gone - so we are planning to "Upgrade" our Farm
to Win2003...
But how about those settings on PagedPoolSize and PoolUsageMaximum - can
anybody explain this plz?
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Torben Claus
HKL BAUMASCHINEN
Lademannbogen 130
22331 Hamburg
Tel: 040-53802-381
Fax: 040-53802-809
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Von: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag
von Nuno Jose Sequeira
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. Oktober 2004 12:08
An: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Betreff: [THIN] Re: Windows cannot load your profile. Please increase the
registry size and restart the computer.
Hi,
Yes I've done that of course, and it doesn't work.
The servers reboot every day at night, and everyday (when the connections are
intense) we have that same message:
Windows cannot load your profile. Please increase the registry size and restart
the computer.
Windows cannot log you on because the profile cannot be loaded. Contact your
network administrator.
DETAIL- Insufficient system resources exist to complete the requested service.
I also used the settings on PagedPoolSize and PoolUsageMaximum.
How can I solve this?
I know the user's roaming profile is big but it's because of many settings they
have like folder redirection and stuff...
Thanks.
Nuno
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From: Rob Beekmans [mailto:R.Beekmans@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: quarta-feira, 27 de Outubro de 2004 10:48
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows cannot load your profile. Please increase the
registry size and restart the computer.
no this error is about the size of the registry.....just increase the
size....computer properties/advanced/performance/pagefile and on that page.
I think it as default something like 55MB.....just increase it.
and your users profiles are 40MB? why are they getting this big? did you allow
temporary internet files to be stored in the profile?
I alsways put the temp int file on the home drive for instance and make sure
it's only 1MB large...default it's way to large.
profiles over 5MB are not workable....IMHO
Met vriendelijke groeten / With kind regards
Rob Beekmans
Technical Consultant
A-Tree Automatisering
St. Annastraat 167 / 6524ET Nijmegen
Business Phone: +31 24 6452000
Business Fax: +31 24 6450463
Business website: http://www.a-tree.nl <http://www.a-tree.nl/>
Business E-mail: R.Beekmans@xxxxxxxxx
Private E-mail: RobBeekmans@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Private E-mail: rob.beekmans@xxxxxxxxx
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Van: Nuno Jose Sequeira [mailto:nsequeira@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Verzonden: woensdag 27 oktober 2004 11:39
Aan: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Onderwerp: [THIN] Re: Windows cannot load your profile. Please increase the
registry size and restart the computer.
Hi,
But this error is about client's profile or the servers?
The profiles of clients are roaming and they have about 30-40Mb size.
How can I fix this?
Thanks
Nuno
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From: Lode Rammelaere [mailto:Lode.Rammelaere@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: terça-feira, 26 de Outubro de 2004 15:51
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows cannot load your profile. Please increase the
registry size and restart the computer.
Check the ntuser.dat file size in the profile folder of the users, I had once a
corruption of the registry hive of the profile and NTuser.dat became
bigger and bigger. The registry hive should be less than 1 MB,
Bye,
Lode
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Landin, Mark
Sent: dinsdag 26 oktober 2004 16:23
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows cannot load your profile. Please increase the
registry size and restart the computer.
The telling sign would be if the behavior persists across reboots. If a reboot
doesn't make the error go away, then it's not anything UPHClean is going to fix.
I had this same problem some time ago and the answer was indeed to twiddle the
PagedPoolSize and PoolUsageMaximum. If that doesn't work, I'm stuck.
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Joe Shonk
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 8:28 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows cannot load your profile. Please increase
the registry size and restart the computer.
Download and install UPHClean from the Microsoft web site. This could
due to profile not unloading properly and stealing system resources.
Joe
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Nuno Jose Sequeira
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 5:00 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Windows cannot load your profile. Please increase the
registry size and restart the computer.
Our customer is having problems with their Citrix servers:
4 Citrix MTF XPe FR3 servers w/ 60 users (1 server with 4Gb RAM, 1 with
1,5Gb, another with 1Gb and the last one with 700MB)
They are getting this error ID: 1000
Windows cannot load your profile. Please increase the registry size and
restart the computer.
Windows cannot log you on because the profile cannot be loaded. Contact
your network administrator.
DETAIL- Insufficient system resources exist to complete the requested
service.
I've used many Microsoft's advices like:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/312362/EN-US/
And setup the registry on ALL the servers like:
RegistrySizeLimit = 256Mb
AND
Value name: PoolUsageMaximum
Data type: REG_DWORD
Radix: Decimal
Value data: 40
Setting the value at 40 informs the Memory Manager to start the
trimming process at 40 percent of PagedPoolMax rather than the default setting
of 80 percent.
Value name: PagedPoolSize
Data type: REG_DWORD
Radix: Hex
Value data: 0xFFFFFFFF
Setting PagedPoolSize to 0xFFFFFFFF allocates the maximum paged pool in
lieu of other resources to the computer.
This setting consumes a lot of Page Swap, and I've also found out that
we are still having the same MSG error mainly on the 4Gb RAM server and on the
1.5Gb RAM!
Could you please help us?
This is becoming critical and users cannot login to the servers!!!
Thanks.
Regards,
Nuno
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