Wow, you must be really important and influential to have a whole company not like you. LOL It's interesting that a request for the 5 user starter to load test software has turned into a rant against the same software company. And it is not even Microsoft!!! LOL I agree with questioning vendors, totally. Everyone has there own motives. Vendors want to sell software, tech support, etc... Off course, now that you have a book and website and training, you have a thing or two you want to sell as well. Everyone of us wants to sell something, and every one of us has own agenda. Someone of us just want to sell ourselves to our boss so we can keep our job. Many of us want to sell customers on our knoweldge and experience. You should know from your days at HP that no one person speaks for every one in the whole company. You shouldn't be surprised that when you speculate on some MS product being a Citrix killer that some at Citrix would have an emotional reaction. They have families and mortgages like the rest of us. I know several SE's at Citrix, and every one of them has recommended your book on several occasions. None of them have said they hate you. One of them does want to twist your head off, though. Something about you puking on him at iForum.... <JK> Quote: Yeah, since I left HP, I don't have any kind of "official" relationship with Citrix. The problem is that Citrix doesn't like what I write. They think my website is full of lies and half-truths about Bear Paw and about Microsoft's relationship with New Moon and Jetro, etc, etc. In fact, one of Citrix's VPs tol last year that my site was "damaging the industry." He said that customers were upset when I wrote things like "will Bear Paw be a Citrix killer?" A lot of my friends who are SEs at Citrix called me and asked me to change it, but do I really want to change articles because the company I'm writing about doesn't like them? If no one challenges anything Citrix says, are we really better? In my opinion, I think these articles start a good dialog and make people think instead of everyone always drinking the vendors' Kool-Aid. Citrix feels that I sensationalize articles just to get readers. I feel differently. But, it's a free country and Citrix can do what they want, so that's fine with me. I think it would be great if Citrix gave me NFR licenses, but if they would rather have my $6,000 for a 20-user XPe starter kit just so I can write about it, then so be it. I love Citrix. I make my living from Citrix. ..Just calling a foul doesn't mean you hate the game. Brian ******************************************************** This weeks sponsor triCerat Inc. triCerat makes your job easier by offering essential applications to eliminate your printing, policy and profile, and your application management problems. http://www.triCerat.com ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thin.net/links.cfm *********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thin.net/citrixlist.cfm