Inline Rick, If part of the upgrade was implementing folder redirection and hybrid profiles? Well if he had used roaming profiles I would have used the migration as a good time to implement a mandatory solution with hybrids to get around the whole Nt 40/2003 profile combination problems. But with local profiles he doesn't need it. What if your application delivery didn't include nfuse, what if the upgrade has to be transparent? You can still use the PN clients browsing the farm with a mixed mode (interopability mode) farm where the 1.8 and XP server farms are named the same etc.=20 NT 4.0 TSE/metaframe XP FR1 and Server 2003/Metaframe XP FR3 co-exist quite well. Oh yeah I haven't done the nt40 and 2003 yet but the 2000 and nt 40 I have in my larger farms work well (with profile segregation) I've migrated about over a hundred IM/IMS packages from NT 4.0 to Server 2003 so far and then only issues have been with missing older Jet and DAO components which are easy to add to the IM package.=20 Packages can be easy I didn't assume he would have a problem with the packages. Server 2003 is actually easier than Windows 2000 in terms of application compatibility. Per-user file associations "almost" work perfectly (bloody Autodesk!). Ron Oglesby Senior Technical Architect =20 RapidApp Office 312.372.7188 Mobile 815.325.7618 email roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx =20 -----Original Message----- From: Mack, Rick [mailto:RMack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20 Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 4:15 PM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: 2003 and MF 1.8 Hi Ron, Do you want to justify your comments? If part of the upgrade was implementing folder redirection and hybrid profiles? What if your application delivery didn't include nfuse, what if the upgrade has to be transparent? NT 4.0 TSE/metaframe XP FR1 and Server 2003/Metaframe XP FR3 co-exist quite well. I've migrated about over a hundred IM/IMS packages from NT 4.0 to Server 2003 so far and then only issues have been with missing older Jet and DAO components which are easy to add to the IM package.=20 Server 2003 is actually easier than Windows 2000 in terms of application compatibility. Per-user file associations "almost" work perfectly (bloody Autodesk!). Regards, Rick Ulrich Mack rmack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Volante Systems 18 Heussler Terrace, Milton 4064 Queensland Australia tel +61 7 32467704 -----Original Message----- From: Ron Oglesby [mailto:roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx]=20 Sent: Wednesday, 11 June 2003 12:04 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: 2003 and MF 1.8 Hmmm.. I wouldn't do that, but that's just my opinion. I mean it can get complicated depending on your current profile strategy but I would use this as a chance to do some new profile stuff as well.=3D20 Anyway I would use NFuse to front the two different farms. Then use (as stated in the list previously) a variable to assign the profile path based on The OS or implement a flex/hybrid profile. The reason I say do this at once is that you may wind up doing two migrations or one migration with some additional work. I would prefer one migration for my sanity, and that of the users. Ron Ron Oglesby Senior Technical Architect =3D20 RapidApp Office 312.372.7188 Mobile 815.325.7618 email roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx =3D20 -----Original Message----- From: Mack, Rick [mailto:RMack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20 Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 3:49 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: 2003 and MF 1.8 Hi Anthony, Upgrade your existing 1.8 farm to XP first. It's be worth your while to come up wih a strategy for handling separate profiles for the 2 O.S.s. Then you can mix and match. NT 4.0 to 2003 is relatively painless, as long as you don't want to migrate SQL and Exchange as well ;-). Regards, Rick Ulrich Mack rmack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Volante Systems 18 Heussler Terrace, Milton 4064 Queensland Australia tel +61 7 32467704 -----Original Message----- From: Rallo, Tony [mailto:Tony.Rallo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20 Sent: Tuesday, 10 June 2003 5:55 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: 2003 and MF 1.8 I am on NT4 TSE and MF 1.8 for reasons beyond my control (political). I am putting a plan together to upgrade to MFXP. I would like to be able to upgrade the NT 4.0 servers to 2003 with MF 1.8, and then do an MFXP migration. I have over 100 servers to upgrade (myself) - so I have to do this in stages that will not interrupt the business and will be seamless to the users. =3D20 Anthony Rallo NT Systems Administrator III -----Original Message----- From: Chris Lynch [mailto:lynch00@xxxxxxx]=3D20 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 2:40 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: 2003 and MF 1.8 =3D3D20 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 No, why? Why are you still on MF 1.8? 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