with that much mem being taken up by the accounting app per user alone, it might be worthwhile looking into something like AppSense? I seem to recall that (i think) Mr Ron Roggly ( :) ) posted there was a util you could run on your server, you send it to them and they tell you how much the program would help you - but I cant find the url now :( On the other hand, it could possibly be the hyperthreading, isnt it supposed to take quite a hard performance hit (comparatively) if it guesses whats going on wrong? (More straws please! :) ) Andrew --o-- >>> rjameson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 12/07/04 15:37:37 >>> We have a new 2003 TS with under 50 users but we are having a bit of a difficult time locating the source of the overall system slowdowns. Is there a way to pinpoint the exact cause of a problem slowdown? The programs used on the TS are office 2003, QBooks and other accounting programs (which is the bulk - each session consuming 60-130mb for the accounting program @ each user). From what we see, the network bandwidth is non-existent, drive speed/access is low but the CPU spikes randomly on this dual xeon 3ghz on a dell PE6650. RAM is 3g, hyperthread enabled, RAID 1/5, all data on server and apps loaded on TS. We are just about to contact a third party to pin this down or MS PSS for I feel me are missing something here - just not sure what. We are running the MS service perf advisor now to see if we see anything. One of our techs did check the PTE and recently added the /3g switch for checking if it helps. Ron ******************************************************** This weeks sponsor Emergent Online Thinssentials Utilities Using the latest software, hardware, networking technologies, proven technical expertise, proprietary software and best practices, EOL provides custom-tailored solutions for each client's mission and specific goals. http://www.go-eol.com ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thin.net/links.cfm *********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thin.net/citrixlist.cfm ******************************************************** This weeks sponsor Emergent Online Thinssentials Utilities Using the latest software, hardware, networking technologies, proven technical expertise, proprietary software and best practices, EOL provides custom-tailored solutions for each client?s mission and specific goals. http://www.go-eol.com ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thin.net/links.cfm *********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thin.net/citrixlist.cfm