careful here.. if you have 2003 advanced server, you get WSRSM which is Microsofts built in technology to process priority scheduling..which I understand is possible to disable...also, win2k3 also includes the improvements in 'copy on write' DLL management stuff.. I'm not an expert and I have only used Aurema's armtech on a win2k server and the improvements were absolutely gob smacking! the problem here is that there don't appear to be any bottlenecks? no processes are doing any hammering... I would look for any numbers that look extreme.. context switches etc.. guess guess guess -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Andrew Rogers Sent: 12 July 2004 16:43 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: 2003 TS Perf Problem - best way to 100% find it with that much mem being taken up by the accounting app per user alone, it might be worthwhile looking into something like AppSense? I seem to recall that (i think) Mr Ron Roggly ( :) ) posted there was a util you could run on your server, you send it to them and they tell you how much the program would help you - but I cant find the url now :( On the other hand, it could possibly be the hyperthreading, isnt it supposed to take quite a hard performance hit (comparatively) if it guesses whats going on wrong? (More straws please! :) ) Andrew --o-- >>> rjameson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 12/07/04 15:37:37 >>> We have a new 2003 TS with under 50 users but we are having a bit of a difficult time locating the source of the overall system slowdowns. Is there a way to pinpoint the exact cause of a problem slowdown? The programs used on the TS are office 2003, QBooks and other accounting programs (which is the bulk - each session consuming 60-130mb for the accounting program @ each user). From what we see, the network bandwidth is non-existent, drive speed/access is low but the CPU spikes randomly on this dual xeon 3ghz on a dell PE6650. RAM is 3g, hyperthread enabled, RAID 1/5, all data on server and apps loaded on TS. We are just about to contact a third party to pin this down or MS PSS for I feel me are missing something here - just not sure what. We are running the MS service perf advisor now to see if we see anything. One of our techs did check the PTE and recently added the /3g switch for checking if it helps. Ron ******************************************************** This weeks sponsor Emergent Online Thinssentials Utilities Using the latest software, hardware, networking technologies, proven technical expertise, proprietary software and best practices, EOL provides custom-tailored solutions for each client's mission and specific goals. http://www.go-eol.com ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thin.net/links.cfm *********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thin.net/citrixlist.cfm ******************************************************** This weeks sponsor Emergent Online Thinssentials Utilities Using the latest software, hardware, networking technologies, proven technical expertise, proprietary software and best practices, EOL provides custom-tailored solutions for each client's mission and specific goals. http://www.go-eol.com ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thin.net/links.cfm *********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thin.net/citrixlist.cfm ============================================================================== This message is for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you received this message in error please delete it and notify us. If this message was misdirected, CSFB does not waive any confidentiality or privilege. CSFB retains and monitors electronic communications sent through its network. Instructions transmitted over this system are not binding on CSFB until they are confirmed by us. Message transmission is not guaranteed to be secure. ============================================================================== ******************************************************** This weeks sponsor Emergent Online Thinssentials Utilities Using the latest software, hardware, networking technologies, proven technical expertise, proprietary software and best practices, EOL provides custom-tailored solutions for each client?s mission and specific goals. http://www.go-eol.com ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thin.net/links.cfm *********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thin.net/citrixlist.cfm