[THIN] Re: 2003 TS CAL per user
- From: "Nick Smith" <nick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 06:59:14 -0000
Which is a good thing, BTW, as Win2003 seems to have handed out 47 temp
device licences, all due to expire tomorrow, to the same CE device (it
correctly hand out one temp licence to win95/98/2000 devices - I think
not XP - does it assume XP is purchased pre-April 2003?) . Is .NET CE
able to receive/record device CALs? Or is this a 'feature' of my
particular thin client device? Or just a 2003 bug?
Not that I actually care anymore, because I've just swithced to
per-user, which is where I should have been in the first place. I
hesitate to disagree with Brian, but you state below that "Yes, you
specify upfront. This is something that you select when installing a
Terminal Server.". Perhaps I mistook your meaning, but you can change
the per-user or per-device setting in the TS configuration tool.
Which I learnt on page 80 of the excellent TS book by one B. Madden and
R. Oglesby.:)
Nick
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Madden [mailto:brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
Sent: 03 March 2004 04:18
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: 2003 TS CAL per user
Yeah, I can confirm this. (Check out
http://www.brianmadden.com/thin/article.asp?ID=3D44)
Per User and Internet connection licenses are not at all managed by the
license server. All you need (in these cases) is a license server
without any licenses installed.
Brian
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-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Grant O'Connor
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 10:02 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: 2003 TS CAL per user
I have resulted to adding Per device license as there is no way to track
which users have used licenses, as Ryan said.
Management Limitations for User CALs
A Windows Server 2003-based Terminal Server Licensing Server that is
running in TS User CAL licensing mode does not decrement the number of
available Windows Server 2003 TS CALs when each user connects to the
terminal server. This is a limitation in the Terminal Services Manager
utility (TSadmin.exe). This limitation does not remove the
responsibility from administrators to make sure that a valid TS CAL is
obtained for each connected user, per the End User License Agreement
(EULA). For additional information, click the following article number
to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:=3D20
822134 The Function of Terminal Server CALs in Windows Server 2003=3D20
-----Original Message-----
From: Grant O'Connor=3D20
Sent: Wednesday, 3 March 2004 10:49 a.m.
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: 2003 TS CAL per user
Thank you for advice Ryan,=3D3D20
I'll give it a go
Regards,
Grant
-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Lambert [mailto:rlambert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D20
Sent: Wednesday, 3 March 2004 9:46 a.m.
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: 2003 TS CAL per user
Grant,
I do not believe as of yet that Per User licenses are tracked within
License Management console. Microsoft has not provided a method of
assigning a token to a particular user.=3D3D3D20
If your Terminal Services Configuration on the TS is set to "Per User",
I'd log on a new device and see if the number of temp licenses goes up.
It should not. You just won't see a license being taken.
-----Original Message-----
From: Grant O'Connor [mailto:goconnor@xxxxxxxxx]=3D3D3D20
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 3:46 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: 2003 TS CAL per user
Hello all,
I have installed and activated a Windows Server 2003 Licensing Server on
a domain controller and added per user Cal's. My Windows Server
2003/Citrx FR3 Application Server has been configured as Per User
licensing. The problem is, the Licensing server is only handing out
Temporary per Device Cal's instead of the per user licensing that I have
installed. I want to use the per user licensing method because it is a
better method of licensing for an ASP.
Any suggestions?
Thank you=3D3D3D3D20
Grant
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Madden [mailto:brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D3D3D20
Sent: Wednesday, 3 March 2004 3:06 a.m.
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: 2003 TS CAL per user
Hi Jesse,
Yes, you specify upfront. This is something that you select when
installing a Terminal Server. A single 2003 license server can handle
both types.
The "per user" type license is not managed at this time, so "no" it will
not prevent you from doing what you do.
Brian
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-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of King, Jesse
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 8:50 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] 2003 TS CAL per user
Hi Gang,
Moving from windows 2000, to 2003 and had a question about the TS CAL
per user.
1) Do you need to specify up front which you want when ordering? Device
or User? or is this selectable when installing the TS license server?
2) In our environment, we have a generic login for a specific business
area
- If we choose a per user, will this prevent the generic account to
login to multiple devices?
I am more and more concerned with 2003 licensing because a lot of users
login remotely through CSG, which eats up another device cal. And with
not allowing XP/2000 built in any more, that could be very very costly.
This is why I like the per user model, but I don't see how this would
work with the generic login. Just more of an excuse to move away from
generic logins - hate em.
I've been reading Ron and Brian's TS2003 - Just got done with the
license section. Good stuff...
Thanks.
Jess
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