Ha Ha....Should I reveal my find of an Aztec Thrush at Webberville now?? ********************************************************************** Brush Freeman 503-551-5150 Cell 120 N. Red Bud Trail. Elgin, Tx. 78621 http://texasnaturenotes.blogspot.com/ Finca Alacranes., Utley,Texas On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Jim Sinclair <jim.sinclair@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: > Well, I know that I will never, ever forgive Mary Gustafson for > questioning my report of 10 Greater Flamingos on the Norias division. My > report should have stood on it merits. > > On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Steve Gast <segast23@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > I find it enjoyable to find and submit something that gets flagged. I > > don't look for these on purpose but do get a kick out of finding > something > > out of the ordinary. I have made mistakes in data entry and a few times I > > don't have a good enough description for it to be accepted ( yeah - OK - > > sometimes too I just blow the ID) But that is ok because I end up > learning > > how to study a bird better or how to ID a bird correctly the next time. I > > am sorry for putting reviewers to extra work though. I really don't want > to > > do this on purpose and so I never complain about either having to submit > > more details or volunteering to pull the record down due to insufficient > > observation. I have the lesser amount of work to that of the busy eBird > > reviewers ( God bless 'em) > > > > The process however it plays out should be a learning one and enjoyable. > > > > Steve Gast > > Houston TX > > > > > On Mar 20, 2014, at 3:00 PM, Brady Surber <supersurber@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > wrote: > > > > > > It would be much easier to document flagged sightings if one knew ahead > > of time what would get flagged, to my knowledge there is no way to view a > > list of what the filters hit. Frequently I get flagged for species that > > shouldn't be rare(granted that can only be fixed by more sightings with > > documentation) or that are in unusual numbers. Cases such as this if it > > were possible to know or see a list by region of the filters /with > expected > > numbers it would be astoundingly easier for all of us to document things > > better. > > > regards, > > > Brady Surber > > > Vernon, TX > > > > > >> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 08:52:18 -0700 > > >> Subject: [texbirds] eBird's position on documentation > > >> From: heraldpetrel@xxxxxxxxx > > >> To: texbirds@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >> > > >> Texbirders > > >> I thought I would chime in here and provide some insight into how > eBird > > >> views the process of documenting rarities, and why that is important. > > >> Photos are not required to support a record, but they are an excellent > > >> source of documentation. That said, before digital photography was > > widely > > >> accessible to the public, birders adequately documented birds through > > >> careful description. In some cases, a careful description can be > better > > >> than a photo. Photos in the absence of any text description are > > >> problematic. Ideally, a record would have both. eBird editors should > > not be > > >> invalidating records with text descriptions as a rule. On the > contrary, > > >> they should be evaluating these to the best of their ability. If that > is > > >> not happening, I need to know about it. That said, some people refuse > to > > >> provide details, and it can be tiresome for volunteer editors who > spend > > >> countless hours trying to keep the database clean for scientific > > purposes > > >> to request details and get none. The eBird review team in Texas has a > > huge > > >> volume of records to review every day, and this is generally a > thankless > > >> job. Without them, eBird would cease to function, so please do your > > best to > > >> help them by documenting any flagged records you submit to the best of > > your > > >> ability. > > >> > > >> Please see the links below to learn more about the eBird data quality > > >> process, and how to adequately document your records. > > >> > > >> Data Quality: http://help.ebird.org/customer/portal/articles/1055676 > > >> > > >> Documentation: > > >> > > > http://help.ebird.org/customer/portal/articles/973980-reporting-rarities--elements-of-a-bird-description?b_id28 > > >> > > >> Thanks > > >> > > >> Brian > > >> > > >> -- > > >> =========== > > >> > > >> > > >> *Brian L. SullivaneBird Project Leader * > > >> www.ebird.org > > >> > > >> *Photo Editor* > > >> Birds of North America Online > > >> http://bna.birds.cornell.edu/BNA > > >> ------------------------------- > > >> > > >> > > >> Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at > > >> //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds > > >> > > >> Reposting of traffic from TEXBIRDS is prohibited without seeking > > permission > > >> from the List Owner > > > > > > Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at > > > //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds > > > > > > Reposting of traffic from TEXBIRDS is prohibited without seeking > > permission > > > from the List Owner > > > > > > > > Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at > > //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds > > > > Reposting of traffic from TEXBIRDS is prohibited without seeking > permission > > from the List Owner > > > > > > > > > -- > Jim Sinclair (TX-ESA) > TOS Life Member > Kingsville, TX > > "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of > thinking we were at when we created them." - Albert Einstein > > > Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at > //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds > > Reposting of traffic from TEXBIRDS is prohibited without seeking permission > from the List Owner > > > Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds Reposting of traffic from TEXBIRDS is prohibited without seeking permission from the List Owner