[texbirds] Re: eBird's position on documentation
- From: Clay Taylor <Clay.Taylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "jim.sinclair@xxxxxxxxx" <jim.sinclair@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 20:22:31 -0400
Jim, that's because you omitted the most important part of the Flamingo
message....the smiley face!
;-)
Clay Taylor
Calallen (Corpus Christi) TX
Clay.taylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent from my iPad
> On Mar 20, 2014, at 4:53 PM, "Jim Sinclair" <jim.sinclair@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Good grief, folks. Some of you need to recharge your sense of humor. Mary
> and I both thought my error was hilarious.
>
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Jim Sinclair <jim.sinclair@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> Well, I know that I will never, ever forgive Mary Gustafson for
>> questioning my report of 10 Greater Flamingos on the Norias division. My
>> report should have stood on it merits.
>>
>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Steve Gast <segast23@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> I find it enjoyable to find and submit something that gets flagged. I
>>> don't look for these on purpose but do get a kick out of finding something
>>> out of the ordinary. I have made mistakes in data entry and a few times I
>>> don't have a good enough description for it to be accepted ( yeah - OK -
>>> sometimes too I just blow the ID) But that is ok because I end up learning
>>> how to study a bird better or how to ID a bird correctly the next time. I
>>> am sorry for putting reviewers to extra work though. I really don't want to
>>> do this on purpose and so I never complain about either having to submit
>>> more details or volunteering to pull the record down due to insufficient
>>> observation. I have the lesser amount of work to that of the busy eBird
>>> reviewers ( God bless 'em)
>>>
>>> The process however it plays out should be a learning one and enjoyable.
>>>
>>> Steve Gast
>>> Houston TX
>>>
>>>>> On Mar 20, 2014, at 3:00 PM, Brady Surber <supersurber@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It would be much easier to document flagged sightings if one knew ahead
>>> of time what would get flagged, to my knowledge there is no way to view a
>>> list of what the filters hit. Frequently I get flagged for species that
>>> shouldn't be rare(granted that can only be fixed by more sightings with
>>> documentation) or that are in unusual numbers. Cases such as this if it
>>> were possible to know or see a list by region of the filters /with expected
>>> numbers it would be astoundingly easier for all of us to document things
>>> better.
>>>> regards,
>>>> Brady Surber
>>>> Vernon, TX
>>>>
>>>>> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 08:52:18 -0700
>>>>> Subject: [texbirds] eBird's position on documentation
>>>>> From: heraldpetrel@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> To: texbirds@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>> Texbirders
>>>>> I thought I would chime in here and provide some insight into how eBird
>>>>> views the process of documenting rarities, and why that is important.
>>>>> Photos are not required to support a record, but they are an excellent
>>>>> source of documentation. That said, before digital photography was
>>> widely
>>>>> accessible to the public, birders adequately documented birds through
>>>>> careful description. In some cases, a careful description can be better
>>>>> than a photo. Photos in the absence of any text description are
>>>>> problematic. Ideally, a record would have both. eBird editors should
>>> not be
>>>>> invalidating records with text descriptions as a rule. On the contrary,
>>>>> they should be evaluating these to the best of their ability. If that
>>> is
>>>>> not happening, I need to know about it. That said, some people refuse
>>> to
>>>>> provide details, and it can be tiresome for volunteer editors who spend
>>>>> countless hours trying to keep the database clean for scientific
>>> purposes
>>>>> to request details and get none. The eBird review team in Texas has a
>>> huge
>>>>> volume of records to review every day, and this is generally a
>>> thankless
>>>>> job. Without them, eBird would cease to function, so please do your
>>> best to
>>>>> help them by documenting any flagged records you submit to the best of
>>> your
>>>>> ability.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please see the links below to learn more about the eBird data quality
>>>>> process, and how to adequately document your records.
>>>>>
>>>>> Data Quality: http://help.ebird.org/customer/portal/articles/1055676
>>>>>
>>>>> Documentation:
>>> http://help.ebird.org/customer/portal/articles/973980-reporting-rarities--elements-of-a-bird-description?b_id28
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Brian
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> ===========
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Brian L. SullivaneBird Project Leader *
>>>>> www.ebird.org
>>>>>
>>>>> *Photo Editor*
>>>>> Birds of North America Online
>>>>> http://bna.birds.cornell.edu/BNA
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>> Jim Sinclair (TX-ESA)
>> TOS Life Member
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>>
>> "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of
>> thinking we were at when we created them." - Albert Einstein
>
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