[texbirds] Re: Yellow-billed Cuckoo

  • From: Theresa <blubayou2001@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "cwebirds@xxxxxxx" <cwebirds@xxxxxxx>, "ronniekramer1964@xxxxxxxxx" <ronniekramer1964@xxxxxxxxx>, "williebird22@xxxxxxxxx" <williebird22@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 10:49:37 -0700 (PDT)

I know this is going to sound crazy, but I SAW a YB cuckoo on 3-2-06 at St. Eds 
Park. I didn't report birds then and I didn't know it was unusual. It was 
before the trees leafed out and it was cold. Just another anecdotal sighting.

Theresa Bayoud
Austin, Texas
 

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 From: Charles W. Easley <cwebirds@xxxxxxx>
To: ronniekramer1964@xxxxxxxxx; williebird22@xxxxxxxxx 
Cc: texbirds@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 11:48 AM
Subject: [texbirds] Re: Yellow-billed Cuckoo
  
Dear All:   I do not believe that Eric, Willie and others are slamming this 
report, but rather have been stunned by the early
date.  I too was shaken by the date.  This bird moves thru and nests in 
Johnson County.  All my records I have are from late
April thru early May for migrating birds. This bird seldom calls here in 
Johnson County until it is ready to breed in May - June.
Look at the Birds of North Central Texas, by Warren Pulich, 1988,  to get a 
better understanding of the movements of this
species thru OUR area. Would like to see what Brush has to say about this? 
To better understand the movements of Texas
Birds the TRBC needs all records.  They have been entrusted to make a fair 
and impartial judgement on these records, based
upon many factors. Previous records, being one of the most important. It 
gives us a gauge to go by when we try to better
understand migration and it's dates, early or late.

Charles Easley
Cleburne, Johnson County, Texas
cwebirds@xxxxxxx
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From: "Ronnie Kramer" <ronniekramer1964@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 8:43 PM
To: <williebird22@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <texbirds@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [texbirds] Re: Yellow-billed Cuckoo

> On 2/29/08 HAS reported a Yellow-billed Cuckoo at Boy Scout Woods.
> On 12/15/87 Missouri Rare Bird Records indicates an accepted record from
> Nodaway, MO.
>
> On 1/31/03 Arkansas Game & Fish Commission (Johnny Waldrup) submitted a
> sighting from Holland Bottoms WMA, Lonoke County, Arkansas.
>
> On 1/14/03 Arkansas Game & Fish Commission (J.W. Kelley) submitted a
> sighting from Departee Creek WMA, White County, Arkansas.
>
> On 12/23/41, The Memphis Chapter of the Tennessee Ornithological Society
> reported 1 Yellow-billed Cuckoo in "very weak condition."
>
> On 12/16/90 a Yellow-billed Cuckoo was "Seen well for several minutes 
> 25-40
> feet in two different bushes by at least 3 people. - CBC write-up" at
> Laguna Atascoasa NWR, Cameron County.
>
> And someone I've been following for 25 years...On 12/17/83, Dr. James Van
> Remsen reports a specimen collected from East Jetty Woods, Cameron Parish,
> LA.  Knowing Dr. Remsen, I imagine this was a perfectly healthy bird one
> minute, and in a field bag the next :)
>
> While none of these sightings support my claim, they indicate that 
> stranger
> things have happened.
>
> Ronnie Kramer
> Austin
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Ronnie Kramer 
> <ronniekramer1964@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> Your position is the correct one.  Remarkable claims require remarkable
>> evidence.  I'm well aware of the extraordinary claim I'm making and do 
>> not
>> make it without firm confidence, and knowing that I do not have the
>> evidence to support the claim in open forum.
>>
>> Yet I heard the bird and faithfully report it.  I do not expect it to be
>> anything other than an anecdotal report.  But I stand by it.
>>
>> ~Ronnie Kramer
>> Austin
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Willie Sekula 
>> <williebird22@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>
>>> A Yellow-billed Cuckoo on March 9th would be unprecedented even for a
>>> globally-warmed Texas. In my 40 years of birding the state I've never 
>>> seen
>>> much less heard a Yellow-billed Cuckoo in March.  As Eric stated, this
>>> species doesn't really start showing up in the state till mid-April and
>>> that
>>> tends to be coastally.  Usually by the end of April is when this species
>>> begins to makes it presence known in inland South Texas.  A March 9th
>>> cuckoo
>>> might be something more southerly.  There is a record of Dark-billed
>>> Cuckoo
>>> for the state (10 February 1986).
>>>
>>> Willie Sekula
>>> Falls City
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>> ]
>>> On Behalf Of Ronnie Kramer
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 6:20 PM
>>> To: Eric Carpenter
>>> Cc: TexBirds
>>> Subject: [texbirds] Re: Yellow-billed Cuckoo
>>>
>>> The call was not the simpler repeated coo.  It gave a series of staccato
>>> notes increasing in tempo and then the slower clap, clap, clap.  I
>>> immediately listened for a mockingbird singing, as they will often begin
>>> mimicking migrants a few weeks before they return.  There was none 
>>> singing
>>> at right then.  I then played bird tunes in the field to confirm for
>>> myself.
>>> I just listed to all the tapes I have of ground-dove and roadrunner and 
>>> I
>>> have no recording of them giving a series of staccato notes increasing
>>> then
>>> decreasing in tempo.
>>>
>>> I agree that this record should not be confirmed as reliable 
>>> distribution
>>> data, and I do not expect it to be by any means.  I probably wouldn't
>>> accept
>>> it myself even if it were reported as seen (without a photo).  Just
>>> reporting what I'm sure I heard :)
>>>
>>> btw/ added it to my local patch list.
>>>
>>> ~rk
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Eric Carpenter <ecarpe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> > The typical early date for YB Cuckoos in central Texas is probably
>>> > closer to 15 April; they aren't in good numbers until the latter part
>>> > of April.  There are no details for the other March eBird record you
>>> > mention and it was probably validated w/o investigation or by accident
>>> > as has happened from time to time (and we find ourselves re-reviewing
>>> > many of these old outliers based on comments like these).
>>> >
>>> > I have always been leery of extraordinary first-of-season sightings
>>> > that are heard-only, whether they are YB Cuckoos, Golden-cheeked
>>> > Warblers, Acadian Flycatchers, or anything else. I would offer perhaps
>>> > Common Ground-Dove or Greater Roadrunner in this case.  An early March
>>> > YB Cuckoo will have a difficult time surviving and finding food, not
>>> > even thinking about advertising for a mate.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Eric Carpenter
>>> > Austin
>>> >
>>> > On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Ronnie Kramer
>>> > <ronniekramer1964@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> > > This morning while leading a field trip in NE Austin, I had a heard
>>> > > only, but unmistakable Yellow-billed Cuckoo.  This seems to be about
>>> > > 2 weeks early for the 'earliest' records in Travis County.  I found
>>> > > a March 24,
>>> > > 2003 record for Travis Co. in eBird.
>>> >
>>>
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