The idea that there is no need to provide written details as part of a record seems ill conceived to me. There is a perfect example of the need for such information for a rare bird present in Texas right now. The difficulty in separating immature Tundra and Trumpeter Swans is a real identification issue that is actually exacerbated by the lack written details. An excellent quality photo certainly identifies the bird as a swan and depending on the individual perhaps characteristics that will allow the bird to be unequivocally identified. That is not the case for the bird Lubbock in my opinion. I had seen a series of photos taken in February and a video from March of the bird and was convinced it was a Tundra Swan, especially from the video. I later saw closer photos of the bird that made me wonder if it was not actually a Trumpeter Swan. The fact that an obvious Tundra Swan was seen in Lubbock during December and some observers thought that it was the same bird as the Trumpeter currently present emphasizes this identification issue. Trumpeter Swan is almost 15% larger than a Tundra. A fantastic photo of an ambiguous immature swan does not provide this very important information. Another example that might not be the case today with digital cameras and high quality lenses was a kingbird photographed in Florida in the 1970s and identified as the first US Loggerhead Kingbird. Sadly there were no details to describe any aspect of the bird. Ultimately the record could not be accepted and might be a Giant Kingbird. Written details might not have solved the problem, but concise details of the color and possible comparisons to other similar sized birds would have been invaluable. I do not claim that birding or documentation of birds is science, but this is one aspect where our hobby benefits greatly by the rigorous requirements of science to document, document, document. Mark Mark Lockwood Alpine, Texas Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds Reposting of traffic from TEXBIRDS is prohibited without seeking permission from the List Owner