I agree. Steve Gast Houston TX On Jun 19, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Matthew Sim <redcrossbills@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I am going to weigh into this simply because I am, quite frankly, tired of it > all. > > I am 15 and have been birding for 4 years now in which time I've joined > several birding listserves. Sure, there have been minor disagreements on all > of them however nothing like on texbirds. To be honest and rather blunt, I > find this rather childish and immature. As many have mentioned before, if you > do not want to read a post, don't! I delete half the posts without > opening them because they are of no interest to me. If you do open a post you > didn't want to read, by all means, write up a reply; just don't send > it!! Think about it overnight, ask yourself if it is really a good idea to > send it and if you would be doing the birding community any good. If you > still think it's a good idea the next day, perhaps the original post is > not the problem... > > By starting all this, we are doing absolutely no good, and in fact, we're > losing out. Beginning birders won't want to wade into this and others, > including young birders like myself, will feel alienated and leave. We are > only hurting ourselves. I think Mark is completely right in that we need to > accept and respect everyone's right to post. So come one, lets be more > tolerant and focus on the birds. > > Matthew Sim, a young, disgruntled birder > Houston, Texas > > > > --- On Wed, 6/19/13, MBB22222@xxxxxxx wrote: > > > From: MBB22222@xxxxxxx > > Subject: [texbirds] Texbirds posts and UFOs in Texas > > To: texbirds@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013, 2:40 AM > > I read original post about > > “Texbirds and South Texas birding” after seeing > > a few replies in my email box and accidentally clicking on > > one (original > > title did not trigger my interest). > > > > I am not on this listserv from the beginning but I noted > > some sad changes > > over past few years. I think, perhaps I am wrong, that this > > community just > > grown too big and in consequence many small > > sub-communities evolved; each > > one having members that seem to believe that only > > their group represents > > great values, serves the whole community right and > > fits perfectly into Texbirds > > rules. With deferent approach to birds; birders vs. > > birdwatchers vs. bird > > guides vs. equipment salesmen vs. photographers, > > evolutionists vs. > > creationists, green vs. I do not care, etc there are > > enough members now to form > > large sub-communities. Some members are silent but > > unhappy seeing posts from > > other groups and some groups have leaders who, from > > time to time, are > > loudly protesting and trying to criticize approach to > > birds that they do not > > like for whatever reason. It was posted before - there > > is no reason to not let > > somebody enjoying a cardinal that visited his/her > > backyard - one does not > > have to read every post … Being a member of a > > very large community require > > acceptance of the fact that many (most) other members > > might have different > > opinions on many subjects (this has nothing to do who > > is right or wrong), > > enjoy different approach to birds and find different > > posts interesting. > > Trying to force our own opinions to be accepted by > > others is not only rude but > > tells me, IMHO, that one who does that might have many > > weaknesses and > > cannot be happy no matter what … > > > > And birds that we can find and see in TEXAS are incredible. > > Not long time > > ago I found one alien that visited the state. Recently > > I found and add to > > my collection another one. > > > > These who are easy to get scare, do not like photos or read > > but do not like > > my post - they do not have to click on the link below. If > > some believe > > these are not birds but extraterrestrial beings - I > > cannot guarantee that > > those two are birds`but both were seen in Texas > > … > > > > http://www.pbase.com/image/150870101 > > > > If only a few would like them I did not waste my time. BTW, > > somebody else > > have seen and photographed other alien birds in Texas? > > > > Mark B Bartosik > > Houston, Texas > > http://www.pbase.com/mbb/from_the_field > > Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at > > //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds > > > > Reposting of traffic from TEXBIRDS is prohibited without > > seeking permission > > from the List Owner > > > > > > > Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at > //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds > > Reposting of traffic from TEXBIRDS is prohibited without seeking permission > from the List Owner > > Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds Reposting of traffic from TEXBIRDS is prohibited without seeking permission from the List Owner