[texbirds] Re: Texbirds and South Texas birding
- From: Eric Carpenter <ecarpe@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: Martin Reid <upupa@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 18:36:29 -0500
I like Isaac's photos and also enjoy reading Jon's posts. I see
nothing wrong with Isaac's note in regard to the rules of this list,
which are:
"TEXBIRDS encourages the open discussion of Texas birds and birding.
In general, we ask that participants limit their messages to matters
related to birds and birding within our state, although information
about bird-related issues in other states that may interest Texas
birders and has a Texas tie-in are welcomed."
If you read the post that started this, you'll see where it mentions
over 200 species were photographed in Texas. It's not surprising
since Isaac lives and birds mostly in Texas and if you go to his site,
you'll see that there are indeed a large number of birds photo'ed in
Texas. Yes, not exclusively about Texas but certainly the note is
germane and does include easy tie-ins to Texas birding.
Jon and others may have legitimate gripes about what folks post to
different groups they belong to, but linking those issues with Isaac's
post seems to be a stretch.
-- Eric
Eric Carpenter
Austin
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Martin Reid <upupa@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Dear All,
> I'm with John on this, even though I might have tried (and maybe failed...)
> to be less blunt! Perhaps it should have been left to the List Moderator to
> make a statement about the Photo Big Year post, but such admonitions have not
> always been forthcoming so it's hard to sit on ones hands, especially if
> you've been the recipient of rapid Moderator admonitions in the past ;-)
> I can only speculate that John has received some ugly emails about his post.
> If so, do any of those emailers have the guts to make their comments to him
> public?
>
> This medium is a minefield for those of us who are prone to knee-jerk
> reactions. This is a classic occurrence in EmailLand, where person X breaks
> the rules, then person Y else tells them so without using carefully parsed
> ultra-neutral language so that no-one could possibly be upset by it... - then
> person Y gets slammed for offending some people (usually a very small but
> vocal number of people) rather than the focus remaining on the original
> breaking of the rules! ugh!
>
> Personally I think John's post was accurate, blunt and a bit terse, but
> certainly not offensive. I can understand his frustrated reaction because
> this seems to be a recurring issue with many of the groups I belong to.
> Martin
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