TexBirders, At the risk of opening up a can of worms, I wanted to briefly explore the current relationship between TOS's Texas Century Club and eBird. In private email exchanges over the past weeks and months, it has come to my attention that some folks--including a few current or former TCC county editors--have been under the impression that eBird county totals are sufficient and appropriate for migrating to the TCC web pages. Nothing could be further from the truth, as I see it. For some (small?) portion of present-day and recently-inspired birders, the equation, "eBird totals = TCC totals" may hold true. I'm an active eBirder; every significant bird sighting I've made since I retired at the end of 2010 is in eBird. I'm happy to contribute to that database and it's fun to keep up with it. It's a great program, getting better by the day. However, for those of us who have been birding far longer than the life span of eBird, the accumulation of pre-eBird county records and lists can be very significant! IMHO, the latter are *also* very appropriate fodder for reporting in TCC totals, but we each will be differently inspired to begin the monumental task of entering old records into eBird. For just myself as one (data junky) example, along with a filing cabinet drawer full of loose notes and field checklists, I have over 70 hard-bound journals dating back to 1970, about 80% of which are packed with bird records. Those journals average up to 200 pages apiece, so we're talking about 14,000 pages of information to sift through. In fact, for TCC purposes, I *have* gone through that entire body of information to glean out my TCC county totals, which I keep in an Excel spreadsheet with the first date of a species in each county. That effort took the better part of 3 months to accomplish. I've also begun the much, much slower task of entering those early bird records into eBird, checklist by checklist. I'd estimate that the eBird entry of that old data will take many years if I can maintain the inspiration to continue the task. My TCC totals, if extracted *only* from eBird, will essentially never be complete or reliable. So I guess my point is that I encourage everyone to use and improve eBird with data entry and, for those so inclined, foreward your county totals to the appropriate TCC editors to see how we all match up. Both programs have materially enhanced our knowledge of Texas birds. But for those of us with massive accumulations of "pre- data" (i.e. pre-eBird), it should be kept in mind that eBird totals and true TCC accomplishments may never be anywhere close to equal. Chuck Sexton Austin, TX Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds Reposting of traffic from TEXBIRDS is prohibited without seeking permission from the List Owner