http://www.flickr.com/photos/isaaccsanchez/sets/72157633314407688/detail/ Hawk #1: SHORT-TAILED HAWK (light morph); photo taken in Florida where Swainsons are absent Hawk #2: SWAINSONS (classic adult features of a light morph, the kind of photo you see in a field guide) Hawk #3: SWAINSONS (light juvenile) Hawk #4: SWAINSONS (another light juvenile) Hawks #5 & #6: Photos of the same juvenile RED-TAILED HAWK (a probable Kriders) Kudos to Bill Clark and Ronnie Kramer who correctly identified all 6 birds. I would be interested, and I am sure others would as well, in what ID marks they used to sort out the Short-tailed Hawk from the others. Clay Taylor made a very helpful comment about Red-tailed Hawks: The leading front edge of a bird's wing between the shoulder and the wrist (the patagium) is dark in a RTHA, a feature that is absent in hawks 1-4. He also pointed out that the heavily-barred outer primaries are a good mark for RTHA, whereas SWHAs have dark primary feathers (8-10), with no heavy barring. Many other TEXBIRDERS correctly identified 5 & 6 as RTHAs, but I must confess this bird puzzled me the most. Thanks to Clay, it is now clear that this is a RTHA. Isaac Sanchez Austin Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds Reposting of traffic from TEXBIRDS is prohibited without seeking permission from the List Owner