I will be in attendance for your stoning or beheading if I get an invite...Of mostly like mind, trust me I have been there and likely still am...To date the blade has been dull and the stones pebbles....:-)....B On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 9:23 PM, <MBB22222@xxxxxxx> wrote: > Recently a few thoughts on this subject were posted here. I do not reply to > anybody in particular; these are just my own, loose, thoughts. Nor I try > to criticize any thoughts posted earlier. We all have rights to our own > opinion. > First, in my opinion, reporting any bird here, or somewhere else, is a > courtesy of the poster. Second, If somebody thinks that something is > important > it should do it itself; personally rare birds list with location posted on > the same day when they have been seen is absolutely not important to me > but > knowing that this might be of interest to some people I do sometimes post > if I saw one in popular place and I do not if I think they are in > sensitive > area where this or other birds' welfare can be compromised. What I think > is 'sensitive\' it might not be to somebody else but my opinion is as > valid > as others. I wouldn't question their definitions. It is all relative. I > understand that we have a few people calling themselves hard core birders > and > it seems like those, sometimes, are demanding that other people > immediately post any interesting finding so they can go and have a tick. > Personally I > do not see much satisfaction from chasing birds found by somebody else and > claim it on the 'list'. It also seems that the tactic of trying to make > somebody feel guilty if he/her is not immediately sending the report can > be > used from time to time as well. BTW, it looks like somebody with a lot of > money, private jet and horde of local guides could quite easy win big > year or > whatever it is called. To some degree this was already been done in the > past. On the other hand, sure, I am checking eBirds to check migration > dates > (of common birds), etc. I would be much more grateful to people who only > post county were it was seen but correctly IDed the bird. Unfortunately > eBirds is just a mess as far as this goes. And yes, forums were birds and > ID > subjects were discussed in deep are practically gone. Not very good for > all > new bird watchers. And, I think these discussions are more important than > posting rarities. Some people did not have time to learn ID birds yet but > will > jump plane to tick one that was found, and IDed, by somebody else (not > always IDed correctly as we know of quite a few wild goose chases in the > past > - sure it is good for local economy ....). > > To me the bottom line is: if one is seriously interested in any bird > groups it has to learn how to ID them himself (or end up with 5 or more > different names for one bird if choose to keep asking for help) and learn > how to > find birds by himself (or keep checking on messages and have his car engine > running all the time to jump in when rarity is posted). > > > Mark B Bartosik > Houston, Texas > _http://www.pbase.com/mbb/from_the_field_ > (http://www.pbase.com/mbb/from_the_field) > > Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at > //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds > > Reposting of traffic from TEXBIRDS is prohibited without seeking permission > from the List Owner > > > -- Brush Freeman 361-655-7641 Cell http://texasnaturenotes.blogspot.com/ Finca Alacranes., Utley,Texas Son, Please don't become a birder. You have your whole life ahead of you! Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds Reposting of traffic from TEXBIRDS is prohibited without seeking permission from the List Owner